Have we seen the last hall of fame level heavyweight until ten or more years pass?

I agree, he may have the talent but there is no way he can be classified as hall of fame with a short career. Unless he knocks out Wlad, Wilder and any other top contenders within next 5 years.

 

Its possible that Wladimir Klitschko may indeed be the last great heavy we see for some time. Although 5 years is a decent amount of time to build a legacy and Joshua has already established the feat of obtaining a gold medal, a world title, and an 18-0 record. If he manages to become linear champion by this time next near and has four active years to follow of solid defending, he might end up hall of fame material. This of course assumes that he turns out to be that good. There's also the possibility that someone else could emerge from the shadows and a decade is a long period.

 

Heavy weights ceased being marquee fighters after the year 2003. The once greatest prize in sport became the least competitive endeavour in ALL of sport , not just boxing. It was an embarrassment.
The only time in 100 years when the general public had no clue who the HW Champion was. Wladimir K held 100 years of prestige , honour and history on his shoulders and wiped his ass with it for 10 rotten years.
Guys who helped destroy the face of boxing won't be remembered as ATGs.
Its a new dawn. The vermin has been flushed down the chitter. The Champs are now boxing with dignity and class. Honour has been restored.
Fury has just been around a few years at top level and already has brought recognition back to the division by claiming the first Ring HW Fighter of the Year award since 1996

The past 15 years will be brushed under the carpet and history will forget it ever happened.

 

Vitali is no Hall of farmer. I'll tell ya that right off the bat.
Wlad might get in on a technicality 30 years from now.
Fouling was an absolute necessity for him to win. There's no award for cheats.

 

His lengthy reign and large number of title defenses will get him in a lot sooner than that. There are far lesser men who gained passage into the HOF and not too long after they retired. As for his cheating I didn't like his excessive holding either. It made for boring fights and understandably frustrated a lot of challengers. But it can't be deemed as "fouling" unless the officials of the sport deem it as such. It certainly was nothing like Golata's constant hitting below the belt, or Povetkin's illegal substance use or Tyson biting someone's ear and using elbows.

 

This statement is the biggest load of nonsense ever. Its like saying robbery decisions are all well and good because its the will of the judges.
Klithscko has the refs blatantly bought and paid for to allow him do as he pleases and to ban close quarters combat.. Numerous challengers have talked about it.

Tyson's ear biting was shameful but it was in response to Holyfield behaving like a savage. Both guys were animals and i hate those fights. Both that was just one night. Tyson's legacy was already established and aside from the odd elbow he was a fighter of class and dignity.

None of the under matched comp WK feasted on over TEN year presented a threat like Holyfield or fought in ways to warrant Wlad throwing them around the ring by the neck. They all came to box clean and fair and were continuously robbed of fair opportunity. Ten years worth of challengers. The man was a disgrace.

 

Golota was a disgrace as well in the Bowe fights , but he didn't get the victory with his cheating , Wlad did , theres the difference.
And at least he had the courage to enter the ring with Tyson , Bowe and Lewis without having the system rigged to his favour.

WK wouldn't step inside the ring with Povetkin unless less he absolutely knew he'd be allowed carry out one of the most sickening performances you'll ever witness.
You don't fight a fight like that unless you trained for it before hand. WK trained to fight like that. Outrageous.

 

Until i'm shown evidence of referees, judges, etc being paid off then I'm not going to change my stance.

 

No the difference is that punching someone in the nuts is a blatant foul. Clinching isn't. And he positively beat the shlt out of Povetkin who incidentally IS a cheater.

 

Wilder currently has the highest KO% in history.
And none of that nonsense is criteria for hall of fame. I could make a rock solid case for Brian Neilson using meaningless stats.
If Vitali is eligible , then so is Arthur Abraham or Sven Ottke. If he had beaten Lewis and Byrd , retired undefeated , then maybe. But he didn't, he lost and awards are handed to guys who lost their biggest fights.

 

Thats just intellectual dishonesty . Don't you have your own judgement ?

Excessive clinching certainly is a foul. Why was he deducted multiple points for it? Why did Robert Byrd come to his corner in the Brewster match and demand he stop holding?
Why have many guys been DQ'd for illegally clinching ? You can barely even call what Wlad does as clinching anyway. More like back breakers and move you see in the WWE.

The only guy who beat the chit out of Povetkin was a guy half Wlads size with a HW record of 0-1-0. Stood tot-to-toe with him used his fists to beat him from pillar to post.
"ATG" Wladdy fought the most cowardly fight you will ever see. Look at Pov escape his hold which sends Wladdy running away with his back turned.

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