Have Wladimir Klitschko used PEDs for years? Yes or No?

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  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Well it could only be a guess, couldn't it? But it's an educated one. And yeah I agree, micro-dosing is the go-to approach since testing became more stringent and prevalent.
     
  2. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It implies that Vada testing has something to do with the performance, since were only talking about PEDS and not the actual skillset of his opponent.
     
  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Jones was outed as a PED user by Victor Conte when he exposed BALCO and the then undetectable THG. Conte was her coach during her career.

    EDIT: Not her coach but worked with her coach Trevor Graham
     
  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe she was a client of both but I know for a fact memo supplied her too.
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With the money involved, I wonder if it would be difficult for a new company to keep a low profile while supplying PED's to big name atheltes. I'm not naive enough to think this all went away w/ Balco. But I doubt we'll see any balco sized drug companies supplying athletes with cheats.
     
  6. jmashyaka

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    Okay i wasn't aware of Conte's involvement with her, I just know memo supplied her for sure.
     
  7. LANCE99

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    She was a client of Conte. Can search that if you'd like for confirmation.
     
  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Yeah and my bad... he wasn't her coach but her coach Trevor Graham was linked to Conte and BALCO. I amended the post above. I'm trying to recall this from the top of my head and it's getting late for an old man... lol
     
  9. LANCE99

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    You are making the implication, whether you realize it or not.
     
  10. jmashyaka

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    Yeah I checked, you was in fact correct.
     
  11. Stallion

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    What kind of silly accusation is this? :lol:
     
  12. jmashyaka

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    I was but it's only because there was no mention of his opponent's skillset. for example lets assume Vlad didnt use any peds in a fear of testing positive because of the Vada testing, that could of lead to him feeling less confident about his power, speed etc and messed with him mentally along with the fact he had an awkward and confident opponent in front of him. One thing I assume about PED users is if you take away their ability to dope, it has a demoralising mental effect on them along with the physical effect.
     
  13. LANCE99

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    No mention of his opponent's skillset? What exactly does that mean in regards to this conversation? Way too much assumption here, not to mention you are essentially taking Fury out of the equation, leaving Wlad's loss due to something other than the guy he faced.

    Wlad's always fought a little bit tepid after his early KO losses. A safety first style is what Steward helped employ, just as he did with Lewis later in his career. When Wlad fought Fury, I saw a guy who who not even start getting his rhythm down, as Fury did his job almost to perfection that night, keeping Wlad in check.
     
  14. jmashyaka

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    When I first made my point that Vlad's worst performance in years came after Vada testing, noone had mentioned Fury's performance so I did not feel the need to add that, if you want me to admit Fury had a big part to play for Vlad performance I happily will like I just said Vlad had an awkward and confident opponent in front of him.

    Whilst Fury's performance was perfect from a mental side, he left loads of opening for Vlad to hit him i'll add purposely like when put both hands behind his back on the ropes, now if vlad let his right hand go and that landed on his chin Fury would have tasted the canvas if not been completely knocked out.
     
  15. lucky luke

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