Having a good chin is over rated! It aint even funny.

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  1. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Neither did I. A really good chin and recovery can mean that you can come on strong in the later rounds and overcome a better opponent. Also a durable fighter with good stamina can swarm a better boxing opponent. :good

    This is why Antonia Margarito has a good a chance as any against Pac.
     
  2. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's not what I was saying at all.

    I'm saying, again, that your point would be made better if you named fighters who overcame their chin 'problem' through ring smarts, technical ability and hard work. My point was that you choosing two genuinely huge guys, Heavyweights no less, muddies the waters a little given that many people could/will say that they were so dominant due to their size, height and reach (coupled with their obvious skills).

    I think it'd make a stronger point if you referenced say a Welterweight who overcame their shortcomings while restricted to a particular weight. Granted you have tall guys in every weight class but look at say Haye vs VK now - Haye would be giving up around 5 inches of height and like 35, THIRTY FIVE, pounds of weight to his opponent.

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  3. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    going into a ring with a weak chin is like going to war without ammo.
     
  4. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Right, and I am suggesting that they are wrong.

    I picked guys who dominate on purpose. It is constantly applied to these two fighters.

    Why is it applied when it need not be?

    I only actually need one example.
     
  5. cilldara11

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    This is very exclusive to boxing and very annoying to listen to.

    Other sportsmen play constantly over many seasons and no-one can really tell when they start slipping due to age. Boxers might only get a chance to show what they can do 2 or 3 times a year. A couple of below par performances= ''he's past prime''.
     
  6. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Then Wlad would not have 1 win. If you want to say, "Oh, well these are tomoato cans", fine. He would not have... 10 wins then.

    But I think you know that.
     
  7. slo100

    slo100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's nothing cool about taking punishment, but it's a handy ability to have when the going gets tough.
     
  8. NullpointerAlex

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    Well what's you point exactly? State clearly your point instead of naming two fighters and saying: "enough said" :nut :patsch
     
  9. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Read the thread.

    At least do that if you want to play the moron.
     
  10. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Do you people read books by their Title?

    Wait... you probably do.
     
  11. NullpointerAlex

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    No it's not. Let's take Hockey. If you took the players from the Toronto Maple Leafs and matched them against the players who played for the Canadiens in the 1990s, then it would have been a similar comparison.

    In boxing, a boxer is past his prime because he's too old. In a TEAM sport, the team is continually updated, old players retire, new players are hired or traded, so a team never actually goes "past its prime" like a boxer does when he gets older and older and refuses to quit the sport.

    An athlete being "past his prime" it not just related to boxing, to any sport. Only when you're talking about a team sport, you can't say that a team is past its prime in the same way as an individual athlete is past his prime.

    If you had a goaler, quarterback, running back, whatever, still playing at 40 years of age and getting surpassed by younger players, the same thing would apply. Just can't say so for a team...
     
  12. NullpointerAlex

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    "Having a good chin is over rated! It aint even funny."

    As I said, if you don't get hit flush, yeah you could say that it's over rated because your chin is not getting tested. But if you get hit flush, and it's the difference between getting KO'd or just shrugging it off, then no it's not over rated. So of course, if you're not getting hit, you could say that having a chin is over rated but it would be idiotic because it relies on the assumption that a chin is only important if it gets hit...

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  13. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    :lol:

    Oh **** :patsch

    I'll leave this for a while.

    The premise is that I only ever need name a single fighter.

    You either attack that (after reading what I have actually said... not in a single post but every discussion) or the logic stemming from this.

    I know it is asking a lot of you but this is what I am aiming at.
     
  14. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    :deal
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  15. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    its true

    not to metion people seem to think that boxers are completely statistical and have a set amount of everything (power, speed, chin)

    they're not... a boxers atributes are subject to change due to them being human

    someone might be slower 1 night faster another