Having boxed FLOYD and OSCAR.... i will say this about Margorito

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  1. at1

    at1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yup but it wasn't pretty i see PBF vs Margo looking alot like it a real Boxer vs Puncher fight
     
  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    You guys are never gonna get it, are you. Sure Cotto was spent, sure he was beat up. But if the situations were reversed, and Margarito was on the end of that beating, you think he would have hit the canvas. I don't think so. Chin strength was a key factor in this fight, and in Cotto's loss. Not the only factor, to be sure, but an important one.
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void was smart when he refused to fight Margarito.
     
  4. FanManII

    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I doubt Zavy or this guy have ever been in a ring.
    If they had they would know that it's a combination of everything and not just one thing. Power creates alot. Makes you try to avoid something only to be hit with something else. I'm sure Floyd knows this.
    Floyd does everything pretty damn well but if either of you think that fancy footwork will win Floyd this fight, you'd better think again.
    Delahoya gave Floyd his hardest fight in my opinion. Multiply Delahoyas pressure times 10 and you have Margarito who I seriously doubt that Oscar would want to face.
    As a long time Delahoya fan, I really don;t want to see Oscar face Margarito. I feel Delahoya would be mangled somewhere after the 5th round and in shorter fashion than Cotto.
    Nino LaRocca had some of the best footwork I had seen along with very good boxing skills. Donald Curry walked him down and took him out.
    I wonder if we asked LaRocca about Currys power and relentless attack, what he would say? You think he might say that " I thought my footwork would get me past his power and agression"
    We should ask Zab Judah what happened with Baldomir when Zab was boxing so beautifully before being walked down and caught.

    Margarito is unlike ANYONE Floyd will ever face, as The Messenger has stated.
    It would be a 12 round marathon with Floyd running more than in any fight he's ever had.
    Floyd ducked Margarito for a reason.
     
  5. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well he couldnt get space because he doesnt have that type of footwork. I mean even shane was catching him when he went backwards. cotto is not even use to fighting that type of fight and it showed by his actions on the ropes. Not clinching to break rythm and get out of trouble. Also where was the body work? His bread and butter
     
  6. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The way to do it is speed, movement and boxing. In order to do that you have to do a ton of roadwork and have the legs and lungs to be sticking and moving for 12rds. Classic demonstrations were Leanord vs Hagler, Pep vs Saddler, and Ali vs Liston also Tunney vs Dempsey. It used to be the blueprint used by Ali but in todays flat footed world no one fights in the Ali style that so many did in the 70's an 80's
     
  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Margarito vs Oscar is what the public will want ..Im sure Arum and Oscar already talked about it .
     
  8. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    I didn't see that...if that was the case, it would have been a clean Ko...Margo just broke him down physically and mentally...he was dead tired...the pressure did him in. No shots to the chin at all!
     
  9. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so you sparred floyd and oscar?
     
  10. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are you smoking...then are guys that clean his clock and outbox Marg for days...U mean to tell me no one @ 154 or 160 will spar with Marg? Are you sick...He is not even to best in his weight class. Let not make him out to be a beast...
     
  11. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    Damn you and the messenger...I have been in a ring...but not at a high level, for sure.
    That doesn't have anything to do with what we are talking about.
    Oscar was only floyd's hardest fight via score cards which by the way
    were completely ****ed up...Floyd won UD in anyones eyes who knows
    boxing...rather they have fought or not. Margo is like nothing Floyd has faced? Who has Margo face that is half of the fighter Floyd is??:hi:
     
  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Oh I got to save this post. No shot to the chins at all. It was pressure that did him in. :rofl :rofl :rofl Margo was just leaning on him all night and Cotto went to a knee.

    Thanks for showing us your boxing insight. You truly have an eye for boxing. Its a good thing you know the surface of the sun is hot just like you know boxing.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you didn't see any of the uppercuts that turned his mouth and nose to mush?
     
  14. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have been in the ring before but that is irrelevant. Its not just about Pbf's footwork. Factor in his Defense, poise under pressure, ring intelligence,ability not to take shots flush and his CHIN( SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE UNDERESTIMATING). Power is not the end all be all. Factor in everything else and i dont think Marg can beat Floyd
     
  15. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    He wasn't even talking to you:nono...haha...man, you dudes are for real.