Having just watched Adamek/Banks, i'm not so sure Hopkins can beat Adamek.

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  1. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Two words: O'Neil Bell
     
  2. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Average handspeed in Cunningham fight? Man, USS was down 3 times from FLASH knockdowns! And I wouldn't say that Cunn is a slow fighter, he is like a bigger and more ripped version of Dawson.
     
  3. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Ask him to elaborate on my sig:deal

    Ask him to repeat his comments about andyzor's sig.

    1lehudson was born on US soil therefor he is somehow tougher and better than you are.

    1lehusdon is a grade A hater too the point where he blurts **** out..out of pure frustration.









    1lehudson=hater.
     
  4. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree re the Cunningham/Dawson comparison. Cunningham is like a mirror image of Dawson with muscles, a better chin and slightly less speed. They both throw long fast pot shots from outside. They both square up when they throw their rear hand (Dawson left cross, Cunningham straight right) leaving them open to counters. The improvement of Adamek from fighting Dawson to fighting Cunningham & moving up in weight is massive. Yes, Dawson beign southpaw makes him harder to beat.

    Hopkins is trying to do what JMM and SSM did, going into a dangerous fighter's backyard and getting the win. Into the lion's den in a risky situation. Hopkins is not far from 45 and going way up in weight. I think something would go wrong for Bernard vs the bigger fresher man.

    BTW, Hopkins is calling out Calzaghe again - in Wales. That means a bigger crowd than Adamek fight and less power than Adamek.
     
  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    He's quick, for a cruiserweight. What I'd expect to see is that Hopkins would be even faster himself compared to a cruiserweight and this will really negate that. Hopkins seems to carry weight remarkably well, I think he'd be quick and sharp at cruiser. And Adamek is not a big cruiserwieght anyway.
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Did you actually see how Adamek got frozen up when Banks was using even the slightest head movement? Now imagine that's Hopkins instead of Banks. Adamek measures before throwing rather than leading with combos, and that's just a horrible gameplan against someone slippery like Hopkins.

    I like Adamek and I dislike Hopkins, but I don't think Adamek would have a chance in this one.
     
  7. PolishPummler

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    Bank's and head movement?

    Adamek didnt freeze up he had a game plan and followed it.Some people are now basing his entire style on the first 5 rounds with Banks.i dont think it was in his plan to drop a couple of the opening rounds but he intended to stay away for the first half of the fight.
     
  8. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't see too much head movement. Adamek was just testing the waters and gave away quite a few early rounds. He hardly threw anything. Banks did a good job of moving and countering. Banks' hand speed and foot movement is pretty solid for a CW also. I realize that Hopkins is far superior than Banks at controlling the ring.

    I would still favor Hopkins but i'm just not as sure as before. Adamek is a tough man to beat. I'd say maybe 65/35 Hopkins for me.
     
  9. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Adamek aint active fighter? wow.. that just means u saw only 1 his fight and that is , vs Banks, watch his fights vs cunninghum bell or briggs , hes as active as hell and always puts the pressure
     
  10. Brickhaus

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    I'm basing his style on the 6 fights of his I've seen, and he always has trouble pulling the trigger against guys who move well. Same thing happened against Dawson, same thing happened for large chunks of the Cunningham fight.
     
  11. PolishPummler

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    At this point in his career i dont think HOPS can move and keep up a high enough workrate to avoid danger for 12 rounds.Cunningham and Dawson are younger with higher workrates.

    Dawson is a Southpaw who knows how to fight like one.Southpaws cause problems for alot of orthodox fighters.His style footwork and angles that he punches from are not comparable to how Hopkins fights.
     
  12. Monstar

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    the only thing that can defeat Hop in this fight, is his extra weight......don't get me wrong, i rate Adamek very highly, i'd say he's a top 20 P4P fighter but, he's tailor made for Hopkins
     
  13. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    how dare you suggest the great man himself,is possible of anything other than sheer greatness!

    all competition pales in to insignificance,mere mortals shudder at the very mention of the mans great name.

    "known" welterweights and supporting cast members of the "rocky" franchise literally poo there pants at this colossus of pugilistic endeavours,the sights and sounds of his pontifications and gesticulations send mere men into fits of mass hysteria resulting in miracles and scripture the likes of no one has ever seen.

    you dare to suggest adamek can dethrone the best middleweight ever!

    sir i am shocked.


    p.s happy retirement joe,i will forever cherish round 10.
     
  14. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lots of Adamek haters on these forums it seems. I don't really understand why, either. It's always the usual suspects too that he seems to not get any respect from.

    Anyways, this will be an interesting fight. I too think Hopkins is biting off more then he can chew. The man is 44 years old, going up so much in weight can't be good for him. He will have to bulk up quite a bit. And with that we will likely see a degradation of stamina, speed, which will also lead to reflexes, and power. But who knows, Hopkins has yet to be seen at that weight.
     
  15. Brickhaus

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    I respect that, and I agree that Adamek's best chance of winning is if Hopkins fights like he did against Taylor or Calzaghe, utilizing a very low workrate. However, considering Adamek's upright style and defensive holes, I suspect that Hopkins would have a higher workrate like he did against Tarver and Pavlik, who are more similar to Adamek stylistically than Taylor or Calzaghe.

    It's still an interesting fight due to Hopkins putting on the weight (and since he has to age eventually), but considering what each has had success and trouble with in the past, Hopkins is an awful stylistic matchup for Adamek and Adamek is an excellent stylistic matchup for Hopkins.