Having watchen Matweather Hatton a few times Cortez was a disgrace!

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Cortez would stop the action when both were punching on the inside.
     
  2. stake501

    stake501 Active Member Full Member

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    achilles ...think you're wrong on this one

    hatton didnt do anything when he was on the inside.....thats why cortez broke them up

    in the first few rounds he was quick to do it, he could arguably have given a bit more time for them to untangle or to actually start working on the inside....but it was just grappling and mauling....NOT boxing as per the maquis of queensbury...


    I think after the first few rounds..he didnt bother to brake them up as quickly as before...and hatton still did nothing on the inside which i remember at the time really disappointed me....in fact mayweather looked better on the inside as he actually threw punches and rolled his body.

    Whats the ref meant to do? let them hug and wrestle all fight?....we may as well watch UFC...

    i love inside fighting, but punches have to be thrown.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    i have to disagree. he was too anxious to stop the action early on. i distinctly remember cortez stopping the action when they would punch. it was too much. you have to give them a second to punch. they were workin, they shud b left alone.
     
  4. The Jackal

    The Jackal Member Full Member

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    Dave Parris would have done a better job or then i'd have Mickey Vann they are much fairer than that Cortez joker.:nut
     
  5. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Joe Cortez did an excellent job. This was not an easy fight to officiate. Both men were fighting rough and dirty on the inside. Cortez let them go as much as possible. His job was to make sure the men settled it between them - in the ring. That's exactly what happened.
     
  6. auggiewest

    auggiewest Member Full Member

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    mayweather hits hatton behind the head in rd 2. no penalty
    mayweather warned 3 times for forearms and elbows
    Cortez broke up the action before either fighter could wiggle out of the clinch and try to land punches
    the point takeaway was just terrible should of been a warning. floyd was turning his back to the punch.


    Hatton ran out of steam in the 8th and mayweather caught him which had nothing to do with cortez. but his performance was a little to over zealous for this type of style match up
     
  7. LeedsLad

    LeedsLad Active Member Full Member

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    Cortez was pretty shocking early on. At one point i think i remember him almost jumping in to break them up before they even got in the clinch:lol: But did it really effect the outcome of the fight? I don't think so, Mayweather is just a much better boxer than Hatton.
     
  8. Steve Fox

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    I think Cortez has been given a bit of a hard time for this fight. We're not talking about one fighter wrapping up another because the other's on his chest; we're talking about one fighter trying to hold and hit as a tactic. Hatton was allowed to punch and clinch his way to a victory against Urango, but he shouldn't have been allowed to.
     
  9. Naidah

    Naidah New Member Full Member

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    Cortez had no bearing on the outcome, Ricky Hatton would have been knocked out regardless, however I thought his performance was not good enough for such a big fight.

    Firstly he was too eagar to break up the fighting. Sometimes it was justified, other times not. Plus he didn't sort the situation out. Hatton was trying to lock Mayweather into a headlock, using his left arm. This contined to happen, and was one of the reasons why the fighters were tied up so often. Cortez should have warned Hatton for this infringement.

    Secondly, Mayweather was often using his elbows, Cortez kept repeating 'watch those elbows Floyd,' but again never actually issued a warning, thus never actually tackling the problem.

    Thirdly, the point deduction was wrong, plain wrong, no way should Hatton have had a point deducted, the punch never landed and Mayweather should not have turned his back.

    I guess the most important thing is that he didn't actually have an affect on the outcome, Hatton would still have walked onto that left in the 10th round. I just think he could have made the opening few rounds a little more tidy.
     
  10. Naidah

    Naidah New Member Full Member

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    Cortez had no bearing on the outcome, Ricky Hatton would have been knocked out regardless, however I thought his performance was not good enough for such a big fight.

    Firstly he was too eagar to break up the fighting. Sometimes it was justified, other times not. Plus he didn't sort the situation out. Hatton was trying to lock Mayweather into a headlock, using his left arm. This contined to happen, and was one of the reasons why the fighters were tied up so often. Cortez should have warned Hatton for this infringement.

    Secondly, Mayweather was often using his elbows, Cortez kept repeating 'watch those elbows Floyd,' but again never actually issued a warning, thus never actually tackling the problem.

    Thirdly, the point deduction was wrong, plain wrong, no way should Hatton have had a point deducted, the punch never landed and Mayweather should not have turned his back.

    I guess the most important thing is that he didn't actually have an affect on the outcome, Hatton would still have walked onto that left in the 10th round. I just think he could have made the opening few rounds a little more tidy.
     
  11. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The best man won. It was not a wrestling match so Cortez was right in what he did. Ricky can be a very dirty fighter and it was good that he did not get a chance to undertake his dirty tactics.

    I think some of the british public bought into the gutter press crap which blamed Cortez for the loss. They forget that PBF is head and shoulders above Ricky and one of the most talented boxers of all time.

    No one complained when Cortez was ref for the Castillo fight and even knocked point off Castillo.
     
  12. goldenboy

    goldenboy Active Member Full Member

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    i may be pro hatton but i believe cortez had a very poor performance

    he needlessly disrupted the action at times when both fighters hadnt even engaged each other.
     
  13. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm just glad that I don't think the reffing changed the outcome.

    It was poor at times, particularly early on and the point deduction was just plain wrong, but it wasn't Ottke/Reid disgraceful.
     
  14. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    :good yeah the refereeing took the gloss of a mayweather victory and i aint even a mayweather fan.