Haye 16st 9lbs (233lbs) looking in decent shape!!

something i have not seen mention a lot on this thread but haye fought at around 215lb v macrannelli when he had rehydrated after the weigh in.

which is only about 10lbs lighter than he plans to come in for his next fight.

will those 10 pounds have a huge detrimental effect on his speed and stamina.?

 

Of course they will. He wont be able to breath or move his arms or legs. He may aswell call the fight off.

 

we only have the bonin and 1 other fight to go on.

but against bonin at around 220 and obviously looking a lot bigger than he did at cruiser he had a lot of speed and time to do what he wanted.

time will tell what he will be like but i still expect him to be fast.

he has never fought at a huge pace anyway, he picks his shots most of the time, opponents reluctent to walk through his power .

 

Dont take it personally, I aint making it up. I will look up the proper formula in a bit for you.

And no, of course it does not mean that. Heavyweight's are naturally bigger, so they have a bigger lung capacity to accomodate for this. It's no different than if a 5-5 120 pound guy was to bulk up loads.

But what it does mean is that by bulking up, Haye will require more oxygen to work his bigger muscles. He will have to work HARD on his aerobic fitness, incredibly hard in fact, to be able to carry the extra muscle and the stamina to support it. And I'm sure he is. But it DOES affect stamina.

To clarify, ATP works the muscles, and the aerobic and anaerobic systems work entirely to create this. For the anaerobic system, you have about 5 seconds of stored ATP anyways, then certain phosphates and glycogens or whatever work to produce glucose and ATP, then the aerobic system kicks in after about 3 minutes and its oxygen as the main ingredient.

I will look all this up to clarify, Its very sketchy I know, but that is on the right lines.

 

He looks very bulked up and too muscled to possess the same fluid powerpunching ability and versatility.

 

I find it funny so many people post on here that have no idea about the human body or fight themselves. Also Briggs is a perfect example of being muscle bound. Having big bulky muscles is not good for fighting. I used to lift heavy weights alot until i started doing Wushu. Having the added muscle did not slow down my hand or foot speed. However, I got gased much sooner than i wanted to. I read my health book from college and realized i needed to do more cardio and lift lighter weights instead of heavy weights. Alot of these guys on here a totally ignorant about body chemistry. Also Wlad kills Haye inside 8 rounds.

 

The Chef is 100 percent correct man. If u wanna learn something on this site listen to people who know what they are talking about. The Chef is a nutritionist and knows his ****. I train in Wushu and am learning all the time.

 

That's why you have weight classes. :good

 

I think you meant calories?

during camp about 4-5000. about 3000 for fight week

 

Exactly:good

 

Whatever man....see my aviator...im the guy on the left holding the WBO belt.

 

Exactly. :good You know your stuff man!
You get a large build up of lactic acid in the muscles.

For you guys that workout...you ever feel sore the next day after a workout?...thats because you used up all the oxygen in your muscles, which is good, but the byproduct is a build up of lactic acid.

the only way to get rid of being sore, is go workout again. Go break down the acid build up

 

Thats not what I am saying buddy. Im saying that Haye cannot gain 25-30 lbs and have the same speed and stamina. The body doesnt work like that.

Now it might be no big deal for him. Its just that so manny posters think he will be exactly the same just 30lbs heavier

 

This is very true, there's no point building muscle if you cant provide the cardiovascular support necessary to feed them. Haye's body may be getting bigger, but his lungs are still the same size....

Also, when Haye lost against Carl Thompson, wasn't that partly to do with the massive build of lactic acid in his arms due to trying to KO Thompson from the opening bell? Just like Wlad versus Brewster....

 

Now that Haye is in shape, maybe he will now test the true heavyweight waters. I am curious to see how he looks. I think he will fight the Big O early next year. That is my prediction. But, I wish he would fight someone like Tony the Tiger Thomspon. Lets compare his fight with Wlads.