Haye a unified champion within 21 professional fights, how may other top champions?

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  1. msrkmsr

    msrkmsr Kobra Full Member

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    whats most imprsseive is Haye winning the WBC WBA AND WBO now titles within 21 fights!! How mahy other fighters to have achieved so much within such few fights?? I respect his balls to go up against so many top competitors within such a short career already, particularly in an era when fighters are often preened and protected for at least 30 fightsd against bums to enance/protect their reputations.
     
    msrkmsr, Mar 8, 2008
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  2. 9Ball

    9Ball Smeghead Full Member

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    He has reached where he has so quickly because he hasn't had a leech like Warren holding him back to make more money before he eventually quits. He is also incredibly self confident and really beleives he has what it takes. I think he has and will be the saviour of h/w boxing.
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  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough he's done well but cruiser weight isn't the strongest of divisions.
     
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  4. msrkmsr

    msrkmsr Kobra Full Member

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    True! Frank Warren is one of those 'leeches' as u put it that likes to protect and cunningly enhance fighters reputations to build up a fake hype machine. Im intrigued to see what he does with Macca now.
     
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  5. kobipix

    kobipix New Member Full Member

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    David Haye is good
    labeling him the saviour of heavyweight boxing is hardly something worth shouting about.........that division needs depth n Haye & Klitch cant make it great on there own.........
    If Haye cleans up, he will only get labelled as the guy who reigned when the division was **** poor.......
    The heavies need 4 or 5 more guys like Haye to come thru n make it worth watching again.......

    Totally agree with u on the Leech Warren.....he has a monopoly over here and does get fighters there shots........he just runs em in to the ground 1st when they should have title shots ten fights earlier.......
     
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  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was unified (undisputed) champ in his 20th fight... this fight was just a farewell fight in CW.
     
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  7. venbox

    venbox Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfiel was just 17-0-0 after he stopped de Leon to unify at, coincidentially, cruiserweight. He didnt bother defending the unified cw title, and jumped to HW right away. He was 24-0-0 after defeating Douglas to become unified HW champ.
     
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  8. blood_lust

    blood_lust Active Member Full Member

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    Good accomplishment. Though he IS NOT unified as Cunnigham as the IBF belt.

    It helped that Mormeck had two belts and Enzo was keen for an all-british showdown.

    He is the linear champ and 3-belt champ.
     
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  9. msrkmsr

    msrkmsr Kobra Full Member

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    Good ****,kinda facts i was looking for. I can NEVER imagine a waren fighter becomin a proper champ, let alone a unified undisputed champ within 20 fights. Without being disrespectful, hes the kinda guy thats wrong with the sport today,avoiding the bigger most obvious fights. I like Amir Khan but am unsatisfied with what the direction Warren takes for him
     
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  10. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calslappy was 36 before he achieved what Haye achieved tonight, and look at the ridiculous over-rating that bum gets on this site. Haye is the real deal at his own weight and has the balls to move up a weight at 27 years old to cement his legacy.

    No wonder Calzaghes dad looked so pissed off after the fight, exposed in more ways than one :deal
     
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  11. Shev

    Shev Active Member Full Member

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    Haye may well crack the top ten p4p if he wins a belt at heavy.
     
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  12. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He now has 3 of the 4 Cruiserweight straps, he should be in the P4P top 10 already.
     
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  13. msrkmsr

    msrkmsr Kobra Full Member

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    Hes gt tbe in -10 of P4P rankings now surely?
     
    msrkmsr, Mar 8, 2008
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