So you don't put steroids in his food. Do you watch everything he does for the 23.5 hours of the day when he's not eating?
Haye admits he doesn't have a good chin at Cruiserweight. He is moving up to Heavyweight were fighters hit much harder. Well, Rocky Marciano, Ernie Shavers, Joe Frazier, aint fighting at Cruiserweight TODAY. There is huge a difference between the punching power of modern CW and HW's fighting today. I don't care about those all time great fighters named, Haye was fight nothing that compares to those fighter in anyway.
All I can tell you is that I know about such matters and I'd be ****ing amazed if WALDO had never done steroids in his career. He might not do them now, but I think he's done them at some point. This is not me bashing WALDO, just being honest. I also believe that several other HW champs of recent times have done them too. It's certainly no coincidence to me that VITLAY keeps his training camps and teams totally separate from WALDO these days, I wonder why? One is a proven steroid cheat, one isn't. Simple as that.
Yep more backtracking, as I expected The point was that Haye has always been a natural 220lb fighter who boiled down ridiculously to make cruiserweight. Yes he doesn't have the best of chins but he has taken plenty of hard shots off guys that were fighting above the 200lb mark. Idiots that suggest he's going to be KO'd by the first "real" heavyweight shot that he takes are sadly mistaken.
i dont think his chin is at the "kahn" glass level. his cw chin is probably the same as wlad's hw chin. slightly below average. however, now he's moving up in weight and will face far more power. i expect and hope :yep :yep he has trouble with the extra power. maybe the added weight will help some but i don't think it will offset the increase in power he will have to absorb. his chin will clearly be a liability as a hw though. no better than below average however, his hw stamina imo could be potentially a far bigger problem. that added weight and muscle is gonna slow him down and hamper his stamina quite a bit. if he doesn't adapt his style to compensate for it, he will have major issues against hws who he can't ko quick. even at cw, he had stamina problems. i reckon we will soon find out
If you trawl through the history books, you'll find that the hardest hitters fought around the 200lb mark. After rehydrating, people like Mormeck and Maccarinelli are the same weight as the hardest punchers in history. People think weight = punching power. This is not the case. Who are the truly devastating punchers in boxing history? Guys who weighed about 10-25lbs over the cruiserweight limit.
He had a stamina problem at CW ONCE when he fully admitted he wasn't committed enough and he learnt his lesson. Yes he gassed and got stopped early-ish, just like WALDO against Brewster if you believe his fans. He hasn't had stamina problems before or after that match but to be fair not many fighters go more than 3 rounds with this guy which it's why he's an exciting addition to the HW division. I can understand the sceptics I really can, but these WALD huggers that keep saying he's going to get KO'd easily by bums before he gets to the elite are sadly mistaken - this kid is a VERY good fighter and I think he'll prove it too in the next few years.
Good point. Still waiting for Geppys list of 240lb fighters who hit harder than FOreman, Liston etc Has he PM'd anyone the answer?:huh
That's a good sign, at least he's honest about having to use defense and movement in order to go far. Standing there toe to toe will be suicidal especially against serious punchers in the division, he has speed and really good movement, he's just confirming that he's planning to use them 100% with some serious power to back it up.
Exactly. Haye will take the average HW punch just fine. Will he take the punch of WALDO or VITLAY? I don't know - but what I do know is that they wouldn't be able to take the shots of the Hayemaker - it'll be like the Matrix in there :happy :happy
My point is and only is that the fighters that Haye was fighting at Cruiserweight don't compare the power that he is going to face at Heavyweight. Vladimir, Vitali, Peter, Valuev, Chagaev, Tua, Rahman, Maskaev, hit hard. Mormeck, Thomspon, Mock don't compare at all, not even close to fighters Haye is going to have to face or talked about fighting, period.
I think the biggest problem with the way he took the punches, was how much he drained to make the cruiserweight limit. A lot of people are comparing Haye to Khan, but that's rubbish. Let's bring up another British fighter in comparison. Nigel Benn. Benn's chin was weak at 160lbs, because he was killing himself to make the weight. When he went up to 168lbs, he was able to face one of the hardest P4P punchers in boxing history in Gerald McClellan. Benn's chin improved immensely. Maybe Haye's will do the same, when no longer has to dry out so much. It certainly helped his punch resistance against Enzo. I think his stamina is alright now. He fought at a good pace against Mormeck and had no trouble in the late rounds. He should be stronger at heavyweight and plus the guys he's gonna be facing have a poorer workrate anyway.