Haye and Chisora each fought the wrong Klitschko

I agree about helenius... just saying if Chisora loses to haye, then that's now... lost 4 out of 5? Not sure that leads to a shot at wlad:think

 

Yeah it shouldnt lead to it.
I guess Wlad has only one challenge left.

Unification with IBA/IBU heavyweight champion James Toney

 

Sorry dude... i know you are a Chisora fan but.... Wlad ****s him up. Chisora does not get inside against Wlad. He has **** poor footwork, plenty of bobbing but no weaving, no jab and a slow arse cuffing left hook.

Chisora is going to be made to look a mug against Haye... Wlad offers all the same stylistic problems for Chisora that Haye does with a few added extras.

Haye v Vitali.... against the same Vitali that fought Chisora i give Haye a chance of winning on points (slim chance but a chance non the less) but i give Chisora a 30% chance against Haye and around 3% chance against Wlad... Chisora just isn't very good

 

Personally, I don't think Haye has a chance against Vitali.

His punch output just isn't good enough, and even though he can punch and has fast hands, Vitali has a great chin. I just don't think Haye brings anywhere near enough pressure to bear, to make Vitali's old legs work.

Vitali I think, would wait for Haye to commit himself to a 'Haymaker' and simply lean back and counter, lean back and counter.
Vitali would jab and cuff Haye while Haye waits for the right opening to throw his big shots, and essentially those would be fleeting moments.

Vitali would pile up the points just being the more active fighter. As the rounds slip by, Haye's chances will dwindle yet further. He just isn't an active, high volume puncher that brings pressure.
If you don't bring some pressure, you are not beating Vitali.

I don't think Haye has the stoutest heart in the world. He isn't going to walk through leather to land his own shots. He's just not made that way. He will continue to seek those openings which won't be there. Lastly, I think he bricks it whenever he sees Vitali. Big brother scares him. (Imo)

Wlad v Chisora? Haven't thought about it. I feel Chisora is only marginally better than a clubfighter though, who had a decent and unexpected showing against Vitali. I have a feeling his 15 minutes of fame are nearly up.

 

You're probably right mate, I just wanted to explain how it could be an interesting fight, certainly better than Wlad-Mormeck and Wlad-Thompson 2!

Good post! I agree, ultimately whilst Haye has the attributes to trouble the big man, his punch output is too low, and he'll allow Vitali to fight at his own pace. If you allow the Klitschko's to fight their fight, at their own pace then you'll get broken down over 12 rounds, possibly stopped.

It's good to have some objective discussion without the likes of 'itsa huge *****' ruining these threads.

 

:yep
how did I know that was coming

 

moron once again, congrats :good

 

lol take up training your wasted here.oh and politics aswell...brewster beating wlad had nothing to do with gassing and all to do with brewsters footwork and lateral movement :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl..please dont engage me again as your taking away valuable brain space with your ******ed posts..and the worst part is you actually believe what your saying

 

Great Post.

Great Analysis.

I made a similar poll

But your analysis is better.

Spot on.

Exposing the ****ing Kbro Tag Team ***gots for what they are