Haye and Chisora each fought the wrong Klitschko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by moneypaysbills, May 15, 2012.


  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    they BOTH offered him a fight...... blame Don King on this issue NOT the brothers and NOT SNV
     
  2. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    I read up to "but haye could certainly make Vitali miss and make him quit" and stopped
     
  3. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chef, COME ON MAN.:lol:

    This is a troll thread.:good

    Man...

    Chisora was considered as stay busy fight for Wlad and would still be it If Wlad fought him. Now Dereck would be not only stay busy fight but just decent opponent who would make Wlad work just little bit harder.
     
  4. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you do know haye himself finally admitted that the "toe" wasnt an issue and that he should have never used it as excuse:deal
     
  5. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes at one point i was a newby..but i didnt say things like.sanders,purrity and brewster were all known swarmers with great head movement then based it on an argument that the haye a chisora fought the wrong brothers..not only is it alot of ballix.its so far off its embaressing..lets face it.haye has always had a better chance against vitali because he is older and slower..haye has no chance against wlad..chisora has no chance against either bro.wlad would hurt chisora he is taylor made for wlad..the mere fact you look at wlads defeats and try and pick holes means your a muppet and need a slapping
     
  6. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    your right.... as soon as haye came back... the Hate on the brothers has been off the chart again... I guess I need to realize they are trolls
     
  7. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am sure you rememer when there was starting to be talks about Haye challenging Either Klitschkos. It did not take long before these jokers started to talk how Vitali was going to take David because David was that dangerous punchers Wlad is afraid off.:rofl

    Man there is not even debate which one of the brothers has faced the more dangerous, high rated over all better opposition and beaten more reigning champs.
     
  8. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    I never said that about sanders, purrity and peter. That was someone else, I merely used it to highlight that by responding you are acknowledging that. :patsch
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Byrd said he wanted a rematch with Vitali and yet they pushed him into a fight with Wlad, who is the much better boxer.

    Vitali generally fights the punchers, Wlad generally fights the boxers. That's why dominating as a tag team is not good enough.
     
  10. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    This was not meant to be a troll thread, the opening statement of the thread waas presenting a balanced argument, that was looking for the input of others. However, as it always goes on ESB people take a neutral thread and spin it so it is talking about something else entirely. Just because someone says someone can beat one of the Klitschko's and points to an earlier loss as evidence does not mean it's trolling. It's called citing a precedent to back up your argument
     
  11. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lmao.take a redner my man.your a fool..i think you should go and learn about the great sport instead of loving certain fighters to the point it makes you delusional...:good:bbb:deal
     
  12. wlad1111

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    I don't know if you are really full of **** or just pretending to be. Neither Valuev or Povetkin present any real challenge. To even suggest they are cherry picking in this particular situation is ridiculous.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree Wlad would beat Valuev and Vitali would beat Povetkin.

    That's not the point though. I'm not saying they're being selective because they'd lose, I'm saying they're selective to make the easiest fights possible.
     
  14. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    Good way to duck the argument, furthermore your love of Klitschko's can be seen as the same level of delusion. Whereas I was originally trying to see if people agreed and now it's just turned it a **** slinging competition. Also who are you to tell someone they need to learn more?
     
  15. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    why can't there be objective discussion and constructive criticism made about the Klitschko's without a swathe of fanboys ruining the thread? Moneypaysbills posed an interesting topic, and I thought it was a great read. No he's not 100% accurate, but who is? CHEF I'm not sure how much effect Haye's toe had on him, and with all due respect, neither do you. The fact he had to take painkiller injections suggests to me that it was a legit issue, though I'm not toetally convinced he would have done much better with a healthy toe. Wlad's all wrong for Haye, bar a lucky punch, Wlad always outboxes Haye. Vitali howver, isn't as quick as Wlad, he doesn't move as well, and his reflexes aren't as sharp, he also carries his left hand very low, Haye can take advantage of that, David is a HW Willie Pep, make them miss, make them pay.

    Chisora is a hard nights work Wlad, who can't fight going backwards. If Chisora can start backing Wlad up, then he he can have some joy, if Wlad wasn't allowed to hold excessively by the referees in Klitscho fights, then Del Boy could go to work if he gets inside. Wlad isn't stopping Chisora, his best right hands couldn't drop Haye, let alone granite chinned G$ora.

    I also think prime Chagaev (not the ill version Wlad beat) could cause Vitali fits. Wlad would beat the **** of Arreola, I don't rate him at all.