Haye and Chisora each fought the wrong Klitschko

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  1. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because chisora is a tall heavyweight southpaw with great power who is a nightmare for the 1st 3 rounds of any fight..
     
  2. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    that quote never says they're the same :-(

    furthermore, G$sora is a swarmer, Wlad can't handle the pressure, can't fight backwards since he got sonned by sanders. Hence why he's know content to beat on people like Thompson and The slicker, faster Mike Tyson... Mormeck
     
  3. Jаck

    Jаck P4P King Full Member

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    Haye has a chance vs Vitali, Chisora gets destroyed by Wlad.
     
  4. Angol

    Angol Francisco Scaramanga Full Member

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    lewis- slick? ok, i wont bother with that one:lol: lewis was great, one of the greatEST, but i dont think he can be considered 'slick'.

    byrd- when the fight was stopped, vitali was massively ahead on the scorecards, as i recall? ok, so he quit due to a torn rotator cuff, i think he probably should have tried to finish the fight. however, he didnt struggle with byrd, at all.

    wlad's losses are far more clean cut, i dont think theres any element of doubt to his.

    i agree that chisora and haye may have fought the wrong fights, but the logic behind the argument doesnt extend much further than the styles and attributes of chisora and haye themselves. not, of the K bro's previous opponents.
     
  5. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not all pressure fighters can cause Wlad problems. It requires someone who is actually good at what they are doing. Walkning forward in a straight line and throwing with both arms does not automaticly a win over Wlad, as your argumentation suggests.
     
  6. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People who say this havent seen the fight. Vitali did struggle badly with Byrd and while German scorecards were indeed wide, they should have been much closer.

    Byrd had his best round before Vitali quit. Vitali himself probably think that scores were much closers or he wouldnt have quit.
     
  7. Angol

    Angol Francisco Scaramanga Full Member

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    i saw the fight, and i didnt see it that close. i think people tend to clutch at straws when it comes to the K brothers. comparing byrd to many of vitali's other opponents, then yeah.. byrd was 'trouble' for vitali. do you consider cotto to have been so much trouble for mayweather? or was it just in light of how relatively easily mayweather dispatches his opponents?

    not knocking, just trying to put a different spin on things.
     
  8. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Nah both Haye and Chisora lose anyway.
     
  9. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    I always find it hilarious when Klitschko fanboys try to make out Corrie Sanders to be a H2H nightmare, and underrated ATG! Corrie Sanders was cherrypicked, and considered an easy win for a reason! He was a semi retired, semi-pro golfer showing up for a quick payday.

    Also, Moneypaysbills was making the point that people wrote Sanders off, look what happened, upsets can happen in boxing.


    To whoever said Vitali didn't struggle with Byrd, Be honest, you haven't watched the fight have you
     
  10. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    first of all you have basiclly ended your own argument.by calling sanders win over wlad an upset (which is what it was) your awknoledging sanders was in the right place at the right time..sanders was no atg or h2h nightmare you said that not me..what im saying which i always have said about sanders.he was very very dangerous not only was he a southpaw he had raw power and was avoided by some top heavys of his time.but he was only dangerous for 3 rounds then faded due to his lack of stamina.wlad took him lightly (as he even admitted this)did not do his homework and tryed to slug with him and got blasted away..so am i saying corrie sanders was a great boxer??**** no..am i saying if you slug with him in the first 3 rounds theres a very very big danger you will get knocked the **** out regardless of who you are??yes thats exactly what im saying.wlads old team are to blame for the purrity and sanders losses if you give a **** about boxing instead of trying to troll about the champions you would know this..
     
  11. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    What do you mean right place at the right time, he was semi-retired and barely cared about boxing at the time. He just wanted some money to arrange a pro lesson with Tiger Woods. Wlad wanted an easy win, and indeed suffered an upset.
     
  12. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    Also if your absolving Wlad of all blame for Purrity and Sanders losses, who was to blame for Brewster, as it can't have been Wlad?
     
  13. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    How have I ended my argument by saying it was an upset? You make no sense. Sanders was a cherrypick for Wlad to keep busy. It's Klitschko fanboys like yourself, who make out that Sanders was better than he was, to excuse Wlad getting blown out by him. My argument, was that upsets happen in boxing, which is true.




    Of course Wlad says he took him lightly, he beat the **** out of him. No, Wlad is to blame for the Sanders, Purrity and Brewster losses. Wlad didn't want to slug with him you clown, Sanders executed the gameplan (Lennox helped him with), which was to jump on Wlad quick and back him up. Wlad had no choice but to engage Sanders. Unfortunately, we have no fighters today who are capable of executing it. Wlad's 'improvements' have been exaggerated, yes he has improved, but the quality of opposition has drastically declined. I think Wlad from 2000-2004 could dominate this division no problem, and look better doing it.

    Now stop trying to make out Corrie Sanders to be an ATG and H2H nightmare, you just look like an idiot, he was a journeyman for most of his career :lol::rofl:patsch



    If they take all the blame for the losses, then surely they take all the credit for the wins?
     
  14. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    first of all stop making **** up.second wlad was a knock out waiting to happen thats how he was in the right place at the right time..his team did no homework on sanders hence why wlad tryd to walk through him..if you actually watched the defeats instead of reading about them.also if you had actually seen the majority of wlads fights then you would know exactly what im saying.hence the reason why your being called a stupid troll..and i refuse to post responses under your 2 aliases..no thanks.and for the reocrd wlads does owe his legacy to his new team without manny stew wlad would have more losses..like lennox wlad has the tools manny just fine tunes them..that is all..
     
  15. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ill also point out the fact that some silly ******* says sanders was a journey man but noone today has the skill to do what he done??jesus **** these guys need put down..natural selection will end use..i have faith