Haye and Wlad are both at fault but not equally

Here's what I don't understand, and maybe someone can clarify this...

Haye seems to be complaining that BECAUSE Wladimir is now fighting Chisora on April 30th that the WBA would no longer be willing to grant him an extension on his mandatory defense in order to unify the titles with Wlad. Yet if Wladimir DOESN'T fight Chisora, the WBA will grant his extension.

Does the WBA's willingness to grant him an extension on his mandatory have ANYTHING at all to do with the Chisora fight? I don't see why it would matter to the WBA, and maybe I misunderstood what Haye was saying. To me, I would think the WBA would grant him an extension to fight Wladimir on July 2 regardless of whether Wladimir fights in between now and then.

 

Remember April/May 2010? After the Ruiz fight?

When Wlad got the exception for 30 days from the IBF to negotiate a deal with Haye? Remember Booth's smug response? "We don't care about the IBF deadline, that's none of our concern at all, that's Klitschkos problem"

Revenge is sweet. What does Wlad care if Haye has to honor his mandatory? Why doesn't Haye pay off Chagaev so he steps aside? deal:deal

 

So it sounds like you're saying it DOES matter to the WBA whether or not Wlad fights Chisora first...in that case I could see why Haye is in a tight spot due to the Chisora bout. Otherwise, everything seemed like it could still go ahead even if Wlad fought Chisora first.

Looks like it's probably Chagaev next for Haye in that case...

 

What if both the Klitschko's retired tonight and never fought Haye. Would you say they ducked Haye?? Better believe it.. Yet that is exactly what Haye is doing , or at least is trying to use for leverage. End story

 

yup

 

Why do so many people care about a guy who's not a ATG that is going to leave the sport in a few months. I don't see this happening but ..What if he beat both the Klitschko's and then retired. What difference would that make, the Klitschko's would still be top ranked and win the titles right back. If it's to prove they are beatable, it's already happened although I do not like the loses Vitali has. Everybody is beatable, and by the way the Klitschko haters talk about them being ****, it should be no big deal.

**** already or get of the pot Haye

This is the only guy I ever seen to want to win a piece of the cruiserweight , and heavyweight title and defend it once or twice. Talk about longevity. A 193lb Roy Jones beat Ruiz 7 years earlier for the title and then left it. That's by far more impressive then Haye. JR fought at 170lbs. So don't make Haye out to be some extraordinary Saviour

 

Thanks for answering the question below that. I would like to hear that explanation.

 

Agree.

Haye has managed to build the fight up well by getting under the Klitschko's skin and capturing the media, but he thought he had planned it out so well and was back in control of this 3 year game, even if he had conceded some points to Klitschko that he initially hadn't wanted too - retirement and some good cash in the bank was close and win or lose againt a Klitschko he had managed to beat Audley for a bit of long term UK PR.

All was playing out well. Then he got out maneuvered at the final hurdle and didn't see it coming.
He needs to suck it up and act like a champion and tell Wlad he is coming after him rather then running away into retirement having conned everyone including himself.

 

I don't think people realise that if Wlad fights Chisora, then Haye will be forced to fight Chagaev by the WBA.
If they've agreed everything, why go through the negotiations of a huge, huge fight like this and scupper it by fighting Chisora. :huh
Wlad knew if he fought Del Boy, Haye would have to fight Chagaev too close to the July 2nd date they had agreed and therefore the whole process of negotiations are a waste of time.
I can't imagine how difficult it must be to get so many different factors and obstacles out of the way in negotiations (TV, venue etc.) to then throw it all away is hard to fathom. :huh

 

It could very well be a **** you in Hayes face. For pulling out so shortly before their first scheduled fight, right before Sentana went bankrupt.

 

What excatly has haye down that is so crazy. He fought in only 2 cruiserweight championship fights. Back to Back champions. Not hard to unify most the belts when you don't have to defend them over time while trying to setup a unification match. And three Heavyweight title fights. One where he danced around the ring for 12 rounds, the next against Ruiz who nobody cared about, and that farce against Afraud. Wow.

 

When was the last time Wlad blasted anyone out in a round????!!!!:think

 

Whatever you think about Haye's position on this July 2nd date, lets remember one thing.

Its been fairly clear that Klitschko has had 90% of these negotiations in his favour.

Why he still wont make any concessions even at this stage is pretty arrogant and this time he's clearly to blame.

 

Why cant people understand that Wlad is under CONTRACT to make a fight with Chisora by TOMMOROW.

Secondly...This is all Skys fault...they obviously think that an Amir Khan tune up fight is more PPV worthy than a Haye vs Wlad fight.

As for David Haye...He needs to stop ducking Vitali!!!