Haye and Wlad are both at fault but not equally

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Jan 6, 2011.


  1. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I betcha that if Wlad gets injured or becomes unavailable Vitali will be ready to step in in no time. Haye can fight a Klitschko on July 2nd. It does not look like he wants to.
     
  2. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only thing that makes this fight big is the anticipation of seeing Haye get jabbed to death for the full 12 rounds.

    In my books, haye never really wanted to fight any of the Klitschko and since this recent talks abuot the fight, he has been on the constant lookout for a rason for back out.

    I do not mind this fight not happening. haye can retire and fade in obscurity. Nobody will ever remember hm 2 to 3 years from now.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    haha yes but what you bet, isn't what gets signed.

    vitali is liekly to fight solis next yeah, if wlad loses, vitali then fights chisora next, the only way we will ever see vitali vs haye, IMO, is if if

    1) haye beats wlad
    2) wlad doesn't want the fight and vitali steps in.
     
  4. oli

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    :deal ****ing spot on. Just because David Haye prefers to fight every 10 months or so other champs like to be more active.

    Wlad is fully within his rights to take the Chisora fight to stay busy if he wants PROVIDED that he is also fully commited to the July 2nd date with David Haye.

    Wlad IS commited to the July date but David Haye ISNT.
    So whos fault is that?

    By the way...i think we are letting Sky off the hook far to easily in all this. The fight isnt happening in April because the greedy tosspots at Sky think that an Amir Khan TUNE UP fight against an unknown opponent is more pressing PPV than this fight. And that is unnacceptable.
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    ye that is bull****. i understand they want a good relationship with khan, but two klitschko fights with haye could easily dwarf khans next few fights.

    as for wlad being commiten, no he isn't or he wouldn't risk it in a fight. what if he loses?
     
  6. oli

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    Whats indefensible Jack is David Hayes complete refusal to entertain any idea of fighting Vitali instead of Wlad regardless of this mandatory excuse.
     
  7. bremen

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    They have the date, the venue and 2 major networks on board for July 2nd. What's the problem? Even in the the unlikely event that Wlad gets injured, both Sky and RTL will be happy to take Vitali-Haye fight on that date instead. Didn't Haye promise to fight Vitali before he retires as well?
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    i don't know what the problem is, s i said, if vitali is actually willing to pay off solis and deny his borther his big payday, then the fight should happen.

    i just do not see how vitali would take this fight in july.

    they still have an agreement to face wlad on july 2nd, boente himself said it. lets wait for the aftermath of this latest wladimir kayo and we can judge it better then.
     
  9. oli

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    :deal And this is why you cant help but believe that David Haye simply just wanted ANY excuse to jump ship...AGAIN
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    source please.
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just out of interest, Wlad said, after nine months out:

    "I am 33 years old and at the top of my athletic ability, I have never been so strong, fast, and experienced"

    And from an article...

    Wladimir hasn’t fought in almost 10 months but says he won’t have any ring rust
    Saturday night.
    “I’ve never been so fast, I’ve never been so agile, I’ve never been so experienced as I am now,” Wlad said . “I am hungry. I am on fire. He wants my title but I won’t allow it.”


    It's clear Wlad didn't think he would have problems with ring rust and his performance didn't show it either.
     
  12. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He hasn't done that. Vitali is tied up with Solis because of Oener's insistence the fight happens. It's going to purse bids.
     
  13. Heavyrighthand

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    This has got to be the biggest cluster f*ck in the history of boxing, with Haye being the *star*.
     
  14. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is not the problem. WBC has the same rules as WBA: unification trumps mandatory.

    "Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout. If a mandatory challenger had already been appointed by the WBC, the winner of the special bout will then face the mandatory challenger without an intervening contest."
     
  15. BoxingFan2010

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    Wald gave a date of (april or may, one of the two can't remember this moment or july. Sky said no to april/may because of the Khan fight. Wald wants to stay busy so he said july 2nd to Haye and april/may to Chrisora. What is the problem? Sky said no to a Haye & Wald fight sooner then july. Wald has already wasted time in the past waiting for a Haye fight, so anyone with a brain should understand him not waiting for Haye anymore. So Wald fights Chrisora and then Haye july 2nd. So wtf is the problem and all the ****ed up biching about?