Haye and Wlad are both at fault but not equally

I'd feel safe to say 98% percent of the brits that did vote backed Haye

 

and a **** load of americans did too,

 

One more thing, if you could just answer this..

Why does Haye even have a belt?

Haye is just lucky the WBA was corrupted by D.King , to give Valuev his title back after Chageav beat him for it , and then lost it to Wlad.

Never seen a champion in recess come back from retirement win a fight, then get the unification for the interim and champion in recess fight canceled, end up fighting the other real champ(Wlad) on two weeks notice after Valuev and King refused the fight, and then be stripped of his belt. How exactly did Valuev retain that belt. And why is it all of a sudden that Chagaev is now able to fight for the belt again. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Very weird... Maybe they didn't want Klitschko's to have all the belts. Don't see why the loser of the first fight(Chageav/Valuev) would be able to defend the WBA belt against someone who had accomplished nothing at heavyweight(Haye), and the winner of the first fight not have the belt on the line against the best in the division.

 

to answer your question, its a lot of corrupt bull**** going on. valuev should not have been champ.

haye beat valuev, albeit by fighting like a *****.
then fought ruiz who was his mandatory, which was fair enough.

then fought audley harisson, in the most embarassing ***** MOVE of a fight ever! after all the calling out and bad mouthing, runs from the klitschko's for a shitty excuse about UK ppv money!

I believe ALL of that. go through some old posts of mine if you have to.

but on THIS occasion i truly believe wlad is MORE TO BLAME than haye is for this fight not taking place.
i dont care bout wlad i dont care bout haye

i just want to see the damm fight and im just calling things as i am seeing them

 

And that's fine. I too just want to see this fight, and if Haye hadn't talked all this **** for years and not put up I think people would have a different view of him as well..

This time, yes Wlad could have said yea I'll wait, but I don't blame him for not wanting to wait 10 months to fight. Wlad never told Haye he had to retire in a few months. That's also a ploy to put more pressure on the Bro's to make the fight happen or not... This is also the second time Haye has need Wlad to wait. And if Haye is scared Wlad could get hurt durring the Chisora fight, the same could be said of Wlad being scared haye gets hurt in training again and postponing it further away, making the then long layoff even longer

What Haye is doing is Bull****. If he doesn't fight either brother and retires who cares about his next 2 fights, retire now, nobody will miss him... Like I said earlier if the Klitschkos retired tonight or back when the first negotiations fell through Haye would have been all over them for ducking.
What's Haye think he's gonna do in Hollywood, think he's a professional actor , with years of practice. Maybe get the role of ToothFairy II in replacement of "The Rock"

Why is it Manny Pac can be congressman + box and do huge promotional tours.

 

to be fair haye has had these retirement plans LONG LONG before he even became heavyweight. i dont think its a ploy at all.

your right in that haye has invited all the negative press and hatred himself by disrespecting the klits before even fighting at heavyweight and talking his way into a fight, only to pull out. then bitched and bad mouthed them again only to say NO because of UK PPV money. hes bought this on himself.

but like i said its a sad day in boxing that even wlad has to then turn around and fight chisora instead. can i blame him? no i cant. i understand his POV. but its still infuriating nonetheless!
wlad is by no means innocent in all this.

oh well. i officially give up on pac/may and wlad/haye (damm they actually rhyme). plenty of other exciting fights and prospects out there.

the featherweight, light welterweight and super middleweight divisions have cracking fights on the horizon

 

yep. and conversely, wlad is the one who put one idiotic demand up after another, teasing and tempting haye to decline and test his patience.

haye called his bluff and look at where we are now

 

Great post

Unfortunately in amongst the Klit huggers coming on and turning this huge duck by Wlad (spoiling potentially the biggest HW fight for year for a bum like Chisora) around and trying to somehow blame Haye, they have no shame :-(

 

Spot on, on the money. :good

 

Reality check - everything was agreed on (Haye agreed to Wlad's petty demands about the corner etc).

The only things stopping this agreement of the 2.7 fight to be made are;
- Wlad taking Chisora -fight
- David not signing

 

Oh the Haye fight isnt going anywhere Wlad will fight Chisora Haye will ***** but at the end of the day the fight will be negotiated and happen

 

Also I think this is all head games anyway, notice how everytime the fight is renegotiated Wlad always gets a better deal, he probably figures I can beat another guy easily get in hayes head, then move closer to that retirement time comes around and put pressure on Haye to retire or fight

Wlad keeps putting the ball more and more in his favor and I think he is just trying to mentally deflate Haye

 

Balls.

How many more bull**** obstacles need to be put in the way.

If I was Haye or his manager, I would simply say "fine. You fight Chisora. but if you have to pull out of that date because of injury, we want 10 million in compensation".