Haye and Wlad are equally to blame

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Jul 11, 2010.


  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Incorrect again. Haye is virtually unknown in Germany, outside of hardcore boxing fan circles.

    If you walked up to the layman on the street everybody would know who Robbie Williams or David Beckham are, nobody knows Haye.
     
  2. SomeGuy101

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    They won't listen mate. Haye fans are just single minded.

    The ironic thing is even pretty much every non british boxing pundit it getting annoyed with Haye now which tells you all you need to know.

    **** Haye. I hope he gets KO'd by a bum. heck, I hope he's forced to fight Chagaev who'll **** that ass then he'll come crawling back on his hands and knees to Wlad but he won'[t be worth lacing up Wlad's gloves for by then.
     
  3. diamondDave

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    No the sides are not equally to blame. Haye is not an equal with the Klitschkos. He has a paper title from beating someone who was beat by another Klitschko victim (Chagaev).

    Further, Haye has twice punked out of fighting the Klitschkos after agreeing to fight them.

    Haye really deserves challenger type money ie 25%. The fact that the Klitschkos are willing to give him parity to get in the ring with them does not mean Haye is now their equal. He is a roided up big talking loud mouth who has not backed up any of his big talk.
     
  4. Cool2008

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    The only Haye fight, that has ever been shown on German TV was Haye vs Valuev, because German TV show every Valuev fight

    Haye vs Ruiz hasn't been televised in Germany (not even tape delay or highlights)

    Nobody knows Haye in Germany
     
  5. Neverchair

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    Well if that it your argument then Klitschko obviously doesn't deserve 50% of UK money as the general public here havent got a clue who he is!

    Also by your claim it would seem Haye shouldn't get 50% of German revenue.

    Why doesnt Haye just take 100% from the UK and Wlad take 100% of Germany. The rest they can just split. That would seem appropriate wouldnt it?

    Oh wait a minute... that was the ****ing deal!
     
  6. Neverchair

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    **** off you arrogant *****!

    I'll just repeat this as my reply:

    Well if that it your argument then Klitschko obviously doesn't deserve 50% of UK money as the general public here havent got a clue who he is!

    Also by your claim it would seem Haye shouldn't get 50% of German revenue.

    Why doesnt Haye just take 100% from the UK and Wlad take 100% of Germany. The rest they can just split. That would seem appropriate wouldnt it?

    Oh wait a minute... that was the ****ing deal!
     
  7. madballster

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    Look, no need to call me names and insult me. Let's stay civilized.

    Haye and his manager Adam Booth have been on record (in the newspapers and on Sky TV) 12 weeks ago (right after the Ruiz fight) that they will look to fight Wlad, but only if "the Klitschkos finally get in their head that the only possibly deal is when David gets 50% of any purse".

    Now suddenly I heard 50-50 is suddenly not fair because Haye is such a superstar in the UK and Haye deserves more than 50-50 thanks to his superstar status? Then why did Haye and Booth demand exactly that before, in public only to change their mind once again?
     
  8. Neverchair

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    Also I think its worth mentioning that whether you think Haye deserves 50% for the "rest of the world" revenue doesn't make any difference.

    If the Klitschkos were prepared to offer 50% across the board as claimed, then's it's clearly not even an issue to them.

    All it boils down to is the German and UK revenues.

    If Haye is a nobody in Germany and Wlad is a nobody in the UK then what is the problem with just taking the home revenue each?
     
  9. crimson

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    Haye can't walk the walk.
     
  10. Neverchair

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    Ok apologies!:good

    Regardless of the change of mind, I still dont see what is wrong with the new deal.
     
  11. Cool2008

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    Again

    Wlad is way more popular around the world, so he would deserve a lot more from the international revenue
    + he will pretty much sell out the stadium in Germany almost on his own
     
  12. robpalmer135

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    haye is more well known in germany than wlad in UK. No Wlad or Vitali fight will have got 8million viewers in the UK
     
  13. luckylefty

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    Agreed!Its all about the purse.:smoke
     
  14. robpalmer135

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    haye is more well known in germany than wlad in UK. No Wlad or Vitali fight will have got 8million viewers in the UK
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :-( What a bunch of sheep ****. They both have drawing power, but if they want to fill a location up it all just depends on the location and either Germany or England would have a fullhouse. If either really wanted the fight just make it 45-45 with the winner fairly getting the rest. Sometimes the fighters let their management have too much control on who they should fight so it really isn't totally the fighters fault to a degree, I compare it as something to a broker, but ultimately it lies on the fighter.