Haye, Arreola, Povtekin, Chagaev - who is the "next best" heavyweight just now?

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  1. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No way, Arreola's trainer denied it, it must be true :rofl

    :hi::hi:
     
  2. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And this is indicated how? :huh
     
  3. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :huh

    Well his own trainer is never going to admit it is he?
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    Tony Thompson?! :lol: Chagaev boxes the head off him, and Haye knocks him out. As a big Wlad fan, you clearly have an agenda against Haye to say he is inferior to Arreola.

    Chagaev is the next best hw, ahead of Haye as Haye is not proven yet, but I expect Haye to be the best of those four in time, though I expect him to lose to Vitali if they get it on this summer.
     
  5. SL9

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    Why is Haye even in the poll? He's is an impostor in the heavyweight division.
     
  6. sst

    sst Active Member Full Member

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    Arreola is grossly over rated. It is so clear to see he is lacking in skills and conditioning. He is however a strong slugger. That is not going to get him far fighting guys a lot bigger than him. He simply will take to much punishment with his limited defense. I am not sure he even has a punchers chance against the rest of the list. He needs more time to develop his defense and conditioning.
     
  7. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin-he is top and shoulders above his fellow rivals at heavy weight IMO. He was the undisputed force at the amateurs-one of the most dominating figures of all times.

    Sam Peter? He didnt even dare to cross Povetkin's shadow at the amateurs.
    Haye? A nobody at the amateurs.
    Arreola? Who??????????????????
    Chagaev? Good amateur,but didnt play in Povetkin's league.

    On top of his brilliant amateur career Povetkin has rushed his way up to the golden throne of glory and fame in the paid ranks.He has been matched incredibly toughly in his short pro career so far.

    Without any doubt-at least in my mind-the former Russian amateur superstar has the biggest heavy weight potential out there.
     
  8. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Povetkin has the most potential of those listed IMO.
     
  9. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes but he should go after Valuev/Chagaev winner to become World Champion. Fighting Wlad later for unification.

    If he fights Wlad he ruins his career.
     
  10. SL9

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    This is a tragedy. I see him as the dark horse of the heavyweight division, and probably the most underrated boxer out there, not just at heavyweight.

    Fast hands and hard hard punches, and regularly took down guys 6'6" and 40lb+ heavier.

    I hope these rumours are untrue.


    regards
     
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  12. TFFP

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    I would say Chagaev, but given his unstable conditions and the unpredictability of his current ability I learn towards Povetkin.

    I like Povetkin, he is a solid fighter indeed.
     
  13. Haye

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    You clearly know **** all about boxing if you think Arreola is better than Haye, Chagaev and Povetkin.

    You criticise Haye for relying too much on his speed and power. Arreola relies solely on his power. You think Haye has a weak defence, yet do you think Arreola has any defence whatsoever?

    Arreola is slow, crude, very poor defensively and a plodder. He is a poor mans Sam Peter. His chin is not granite, and the guy gets fatter every fight, thus making his punchers chance get smaller and smaller. He will be easily disposed of by either Klitshcko, as well as Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev.
     
  14. Haye

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    Whats the obsession with the Amateurs here?

    Povetkin was a superb amateur grnated, but he is too small and lacks the power to challenge the Klitshcko's IMO.

    Haye was hardly a nobody in the amateurs, he was a good amateur who won silver at the world championships. Losing to Solis no less.

    You realise Audley Harrison was a great amateur dont you? It means very little if your style will not translate into the Pro's. All are underdogs against the Klits, Povetkin and Chagaev are skilled, but small and lacking power. Cant see them challenging. If only for his Speed and Power, Haye matches up the best against the Klits.
     
  15. paulinchen_

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