Haye at Heavyweight - who beats him?

No chance. Wlad has been down to bona fide Heavys with punching power at that weight. Wlad has got up from big shots from bangers like Sanders and Peter and he has mixed with far bigger hitters than Haye.

Haye was all over the show from a shot from Lolenga Mock who was a super middle and had **** all power at that weight. Haye was badly hurt by Mormeck who is not even close to being a puncher in the realms of some of the heavys Wlad has taken shots from and Haye has been KO'd in the amateurs by guys like Jim Twite.

Wlad has the better chin.

 

Chagaev is crap. If you get tagged and have problems with the 1-2's and "speed" of Skelton in several rounds you are going to be in a world of trouble against Haye.

 

Bad clash of styles maybe, although Skelton timed him with rights a couple times.

 

Exactly. If you are getting caught by the timing and hand speed of Skelton then you are going to be eating right hands from Haye. And how many big rights from Haye can anyone take?

 

Wlad has only fought at HW, Haye has fought and been hurt by Cruisers.

 

I agree. If Haye drops his hands like he always does he's likely to be KO'd by a hook off the jab.

 

If Haye is a natural HW and the best in the world at that weight as he thinks then why has he been struggling for years to make it to the CW limit, is it because he was less than confident in his ability to take a real HW punch?
Anyway I think he struggles with a lot of the HW top ten, even guys he has more skill than like Peter or Virchis.
Cahgaev and Iggy can outbox him over 12 rounds it's just a matter of if they can take his right hand when he lands it.
He won't ko Valuev who can probably wear Haye down eventually and win a UD if not a late TKO.
He is great for the HW division because he has a good chance to take most of these guys out and he is fun to watch. Klitscko is the only guy I give him nearly no chance of beating, Wlad is bigger, harder puncher, better defence by a mile, just much better skills than Haye.

 

Well Chag did take shots from Virchis who Is a huge puncher.

The HW;s are used to bigger shots too and aren't Cruiserweights.

 

True. However I don't think Virchis is a huge puncher I think he has a padded record and Haye hits harder.

 

Virchis has very heavy hands and has 1 punch knockout power.

 

Valuev might give Haye trouble but not because Valuev Is that good, just the style and height. Haye bends low and steps In with the right and wouldn't be able to hurt Valuev doing that.

 

Vladimir Virchis is a huge puncher.

 

That is correct to some degree he has heavy hands and alot of power but is a pretty **** puncher, he is all raw power and no technique.

 

Wlad - just too much for Haye to handle at this point.

Chagaev - right now he is too skilled, crafty and durable for Haye, he also has a granite chin.

 

It's about time someone recognized chagaev as being the biggest threat. A fight b/n ruslan and wlad determines the best heavy on the planet!