Haye boasts about breaking 50 year old Don Charles's jaw

charles knew who he was charging at tho, honestly if you tried to pick a fight with a professional fighter what would you expect them to do? Your right haye wasn't exactly innocent but i would put more of the blame towards chisora.

 

I don't like David Haye but I agree that his actions (of self-defence!) were fair enough under the circumstances. :good

I'm more baffled/'outraged' by the fact that he was invited to commentate on the Vitali KLitschko fight , promote himself again, and was still seriously being supported as a future challenger, after his disgraceful showing against Wladimir, his laughable 'toe' excuse, and his supposed 'retirement' ....

David Haye should be considered an embarrassment to British boxing. Nothing more, nothing less.

But sadly British boxing fans seem to be hopelessly addicted to his bull****. It shows how low the standards of this country are.

 

I don't know about "addicted", people seemed pretty evenly split over Haye. That said, he's got where he has as a HW based in no small way on his mouth so I guess he must be going something right.

As for the commentating, whether you like him or not, I'd have thought he was an obvious choice to employ for the that fight?

 

Why ?
If it had been Wladimir Klitschko, then, yes, maybe. He's shared a ring with the man recently.

 

An impartial commentator being the brother of one of the fighters? Bit of a conflict there.

 

Why? Seriously? British TV, he's the top British HW, he's articulate and was a mooted future opponent for Vitali.

 

I guess that's my point, he was being 'mooted' by who ?
He was retired and was a disgrace in his last fight anyway, he totally failed to deliver in epic fashion, totally proved himself to be a bullshitter and an excuse-maker. Also proved himself to be less interested in making an exciting fight than his opponent Klitschko, who he branded 'boring' with no mercy.

But somehow his mouth kicked in again,totally shamelessly, with his friends in the media, and he's being considered the 'top British HW' (despite being retired and only ever having beaten Audley among the domestic boys !) and a serious challenger.
And the fans lap it up ?

I don't get it.
He embarrassed himself badly. He proved to be the absolute opposite of the tradition of brave British challengers - in Germany of all places !
He used a very embarrassing excuse for his defeat. The kind of excuse I'd be ashamed to hear from a 10-year-old son, never mind something that could be excused from a heavyweight contender who tells us he's a 'natural fighter'.
And this was after all his silly attempts at trash talk and all the promises leading up to the fight.

The bloke's an outright embarrassment. He 'fought' Wladimir like a ****ing girl. I guess he must have learned something from Audley Harrison. Everyone knows he bullshits his way to big paydays, he admits that.
And fair play to him. :good

If the British fans are such morons to forget so quickly, they don't deserve better.
I just don't see the appeal in championing such a pathetic challenger as he proved to be. His continuous boasting only makes him seem even more pathetic.

 

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Thats a valid opinion but I don't think it has much to do with whether Haye should have been at the fight in a commentary capacity.

For a start, despite the retirement that even the most gullible boxing fan could see though, even Vitali was "mooting" Haye as his next opponent, so he would seem an obvious choice to do commentary work. You don't have to have "lapped" anything up to acknowledge that.

 

I probably agree with all of this, but what ya gonna do, watch K2 vs Mormeck again? Or Areola? **** that and our younger fighters aren't ready and I don't think any of them really ever will be until the brothers slide way way way past there prime.

May as well have Haye and Chisora at least be entertaining outside of the ring, and who knows if Haye got Vitali after he splats Chisora, Vitali might just have gotten that little bit to old ala Hopkins vs Dawson.

 

He didnt get knocked out?

 

I understand that.
But if there was any sense in the boxing world or among British fans, the idea of Haye having any credibility to challenge Vitali straight off the Wlad defeat and aftermath (OR commentate on any Klitschko fight as a tool to promote himself) should at least be put on hold until he got back in the ring and showed himself to something resembling a fighter again.
Boxing seems become less and less a sport every year, and more like a pantomime.
What happens in the ring seems not to matter as much as all the bull****, gossip and stupidity that occurs outside it.

 

Vitali-Haye was being talked about, Haye is British, British TV was looking for a commentator for a Vitali fight. Even if you don't agree with the reasons behind those facts, particularly Haye deserving another title shot, but its pretty obvious that Haye was a good call for commentating on the fight in those circumstances.

This **** happens all the time in boxing and worrying about who is fit to commentate on what is the least of its problems.

 

Well, I can agree with all of that too.

My point would be : Haye should have been willing and expected to fight a Chisora or two to get another shot anyway. He should have been willing and expected to tone down his talking act a bit too, at least until he's shown he can fight still.

 

Obviously you're right if it's put like that.
But I don't consider Haye being chosen to commentate on the vitali fight as something separate or due to Vitali-Haye being talked about ... it was all part of the same attempted sales campaign.

You're right, it's not a big thing to worry about. I just don't have the capacity for Haye's hot air that others seem to be able to tolerate.
And the boxing media don't do much to keep these kinds of fighters in check.

Of course, the Klitschkos will fight anyone, and the Haye hype can still bring them serious money. They would probably like to re-tread the guy over and over as long as they can get away with it.

 

The key issue most people have is they don't like Haye. which has nothing to do with what actually happened.