Haye conveniently avoiding Vitali

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Akxtinguish, Jan 6, 2011.


  1. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1) To unify he doesn't have to beat both...
    2) Wlad is the bigger fight by a mile, and the fight everyone wants to see the most.
    3) He wanted the Wlad fight clearly, he bowed to every demand, Wlad turned him down, how exactly is this seeking another payday fight with chagaev?
    4)If he didn't think he could get past Wlad why would this stop him signing to fight Vitali
    5) Well done Nostradamus, you predicted Haye would fight his mandatory Chagaev before fighting a Klit, if Wlad hadn't been so scared of Haye then it would have backfired though ;)
     
  2. Bungle85

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    Yeah that was a massive 'people in glass houses' scenario haha. But this is precisely my point with the contract, we dont know who back out on what. The first time they tried to fight Haye had no hesitation in signing, and I personally would like to believe his injury was genuine (or if not then blame Setanta for going under :patsch). My point has been that Haye has publicly said that in these negotiations he has bowed to all demands, I havent heard this disputed from Wlads camp.
     
  3. ImElvis666

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    1) For Haye to be undisputed, he needs to beat both because he needs Vitali's belt also.

    2) He's not the bigger fight by a mile, I would say he is marginally bigger. As I mentioned, the vast majority of the people buying the paper view don't know the difference between each brother. The difference in the scale of the fight is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

    3) Because he could pursue a fight with Vitali. Then fight Wlad, like he promised he would. At this stage, he'll only fight one Klit if he retires when he promised he would (probably bull**** also)

    4) Not sure what you mean by that. I said he'd be happy getting in one more payday in 2011 before he fights Wlad because I believe he knows it's a fight he won't win. And when he loses, the gravy train is derailed and Haye retires. I don't think he believes he can beat either to be honest.

    5) It's easy to be sarcastic and call me Nostradamus now but when I said this it was just after the Ruiz fight, when a lot of Brits believed a Klit fight was imminent. Pretty impressive foresight if you ask me. But you're right saying if Wlad wasn't being an awkward ***** it probably would have happened.
     
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Demands?

    Jesus..... it's a bunch of petty little things that mean **** all.

    He's just a whiny little girl who loves being on TV or in the paper. Just another Kerri Katona or Katie Price.
     
  5. Bungle85

    Bungle85 Member Full Member

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    Then why make them???

    And why not embrace the celebrity he has earned through honing his talent. He is a genuine role model as opposed to the filth you mentioned whose names I wont even type as I consider that too much attention, he's worked hard to get where he is.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

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    Ok, let's say Vitali must oblige Solis. If and when he does, it'll be for a March 19th date. That leaves Vitali plenty of time to meet Haye on July 2nd.
     
  7. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1) You said unified, not undisputed.

    2) It is the bigger fight by a mile, Wlad is the one that's been vocal about the fight with his gay video's, Wlad is the ring champion, the recognised number 1 in the division, of course it's a bigger fight. The vitali fight is still the 2nd biggest fight out there for haye but no way as big as Wlad.

    3) He could pursue a fight with Vitali yes, but how does wanting to sign to fight Wlad and not chagaev show that he wants to fight chagaev for an easy payday before Wlad? It defies logic...

    4) As above, surely he would be over the moon that Wlad hasn't signed if that was the case, surely he wouldn't have bowed to Wlad's obscene demands if he wanted to fight Chagaev all along. Again it defies logic. Wlad is the one who has signed to fight Chisora instead. And bull**** does David Haye think he will lose, you don't get to where he's at by thinking you could lose to anyone.

    5) It was luck, but not bad...

    He wants the Wlad fight badly. By coming out and saying "it's fine, I'll fight Vitali then" it removes any chance of the Wlad fight happening on July 2nd. Notice the Klitschko's are very quiet, I'm not sure they want this fight as much as they profess...

    I can't wait for the Klitschko's to retire, they're boring, they're difficult to negotiate with and on top of that they're petulent and immature. They're a blemish to boxing.

    On another note I fancy Solis to beat Vitali.
     
  8. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It seems non of the champions really wants to unify.If they did this would have been sorted by now.The brothers are happy calling Haye a coward whilst picking up decent money for average fights and its the same with Haye,why risk losing the belt when people are happy to pay him nice money for getting in with the likes of Audley.The Vittali option is not getting a mention cos neither side wants it to happen.
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Why mention them?

    Haye isn't a role model at all, making comments about gang **** and wearing t-shirts depicting people with severed heads.

    He ought to leave wanting to get in the paper for the saddos like Katona and Price, but since he moved up to HW he's hardly set the world alight, has he?

    If he calls it quits without facing Wlad or Vitali he'll be a footnote in British sporting history unfortunately. People don't remember those that talk **** and spit their dummy out when they don't get their own way, it's him imposing these ''I'll retire at 31'' deadlines.

    The Klitschkos can fight who they want, when they want and make shitloads of cash..... and their place in boxing history is secure. Haye will be remembered as a good cruiserweight champion who flattered to deceive at HW.

    He should just get on with his job instead of whining on SSN.
     
  10. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are like a broken record.

    Wlad is the one who has signed to fight Chisora...not Haye...

    I think it's fairly obvious why he mentioned them. If Haye was the one that didn't want the fight he could have used any one of those pathetic demands as his get out clause, claimed the Klits are difficult bla bla bla. He hasn't, he accepted them, that is a statement of intent... At the end of the day Wlad has bottled it.

    I am certain he will fight a Klitschko before he retires. Unless they get beaten before then...
     
  11. Relentless

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    the klits decide which klit haye faces, haye cant choose as they have said.
     
  12. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    That would be ideal but Haye is now talking about fighting Chagaev in May :nut.
    Hate that fight.
     
  13. dftaylor

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    Here's a crazy concept - why don't Haye and Wlad, y'know, fight each other instead of looking for other opponents?

    If Wlad wants to fight Chisora so much, he can do it after, as a tune-up for coming back from his brutal knockout loss.
     
  14. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ;)
     
  15. 'Ben'

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    I'd rather see Haye face Vitali first anyway.