Haye / Harrison Fix Video

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  1. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    Apologies if this has already been posted, but if it has, I missed it. I ran a search and couldn't seem to find this link - it's a thought-provoking one.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_L7ti6cu4U[/ame]

    At 0:03 and 0:35 you can clearly see Haye back away from Harrison, nod his head and mouth the word, "Now." before moving in to throw a seemingly ineffective barrage of punches that lands to the gloves of Audley, with the exception of the opening straight right, that puts Harrison down.

    Combine this with the steaming platefuls of inactivity in the first and second rounds and Haye's admission in the post-fight interview to betting on himself to win in the third round, and later recanting of that statement to say he told friends and family to bet on a third-round-win, and what have you got?

    This isn't hatred. This isn't me saying that Haye "sucks", is "gay", is a "coward", etc. Give me your thoughts on what's happening in this video and how it ties into the gambling issue.
     
  2. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    That gay coward sucks. And he's a cheater. That really looked fixed.

    And the Brits paying for this ****...:lol:
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tricks77, in a fight where he has already recieved a hefty load of criticism, do you really think he'll then go and risk 'fixing' it?

    That video is bogus. It proves nothing.
     
  4. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    Uncle Rico - how is the video bogus? Haye's right there. On video.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    And doing what? Motioning something with his lips? Taunting Harrison? And this somehow means he's giving him the signal to fall?
     
  6. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Given the whole context? Yeah it looks bad.
     
  7. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    Okay, now I'm with you. So your assertion is that Haye wasn't actually saying, "Now." to Harrison, that perhaps it was something else meant as a taunt.

    Gotcha.
     
  8. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    Agreed, Rushman. Like Uncle Rico says - this isn't "proof" by any stretch of the imagination. If it was in a court of law, it would just be a bunch of circumstantial evidence. Technically Haye could have been saying a lot of different things. I'm no linguistics expert or professional lip reader.

    On the other hand, that's a hell of a lot of circumstantial evidence.
     
  9. BoxKing

    BoxKing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The vid certainly seems suspect, but if you looked at any fight that closely you'll find situations where the two fighters are communicating something to each other.

    However, one of the main reasons it doesn't make a lot of sense is why Haye would purposely back up in front of all those cameras to give Audley a signal. If they did want to cheat, he could have told him to take a fall while he was punching or during a clinch when its harder to catch.

    Considering the consequences to his career if this was an actual fix, they would have taken precautions to make it look very natural.

    It is, thus, more likely that he was merely replying to something Harrison could have said earlier. Maybe something along the lines of:

    Round 3

    Harrison: "You are nothing man, **** I'm not even hurt !"
    Haye: "Really? Well tell you what, in a few moments you are going to EAT those words m8"
    Harrison: "Yeah Whatever pal !"

    As he backs up he says:

    Haye: "It's time for me to end this...

    Then as he's fully backed up:

    Haye: "...now."
     
  10. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fixed or not who gives a ****?

    If there is one thing that video proved, it is that Haye is a one handed fight that relies purely on his right hand.
     
  11. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ill admit the whole thing looks shady, but what do you expect from Harrison?

    funny part is during the Post Fight interview Haye calls Briggs and Chambers "bums" after he just fought the biggest bum of them all lol.
     
  12. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah. But I do agree with you, though. At most, it just worsens a situation which was a big enough farce in the first place.
     
  13. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    haye looked to be taunting Harrison not a fix imo
     
  14. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The video looks suspicious, but isn't remotely conclusive.

    What keeps me from thinking it was fixed is the question --why wouldn't Harrison have thrown some punches to make it look real?

    The fight shows Harrison being embarrassed and outclassed. If it was all a performance, then it was a hell of a performance.

    Haye was drinking the **** water when he boasted about betting on himself on freaking PPV. But this also suggests it wasn't a pre-meditated set-up....why would Haye draw additional attention to his own foul play if he was also perpetrating fraud?

    There was only going to be one outcome in this fight but Audley's performance will only be historic as a candidate for the worst performance in a title fight ever.
     
  15. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    These are good points, Ludwig. I guess one can say that the whole thing looked 'so' fixed that there's no possible way it could have been. :rofl