Haye has a lot of luck in HW

he was gettin rocked? "reached that stage":nut . come on man which fight were u watchin or after how many beers? Adamek was never /rocked/stunned/hurt in his last fight versus jason estrada , was he hit clean? yes few times , with what effect? with no effect. And ive seen that fight more than once.

 

Ruiz is as much benchmark as Arreola. Well, far better.

 

Be fair - he has been in boxing before becoming a HW.

 

Yeah, right.. ruiz is much better at this stage than arreola , comon do a poll and ask whos more of a threat to david haye: Arreola or Johnny ruiz and come back with the results, we'll see if ur right

 

He'd never beat Lewis

That's different. Those are incomparable legends and Haye has done nowt yet to be worthy of discussion of relative status to them.

but to think that Arreola is anywhere near Haye's level absolutely amazes me. To say that Arreola is benchmark over Ruiz seems odd to me. Take out a dozen year old Tua fight (how many people really think Tua beats Ruiz now????) and dislike of his style, surely Ruiz is about as fair a test as anyone outside of Povetkin, Solis and the Klitschkos?

What I hate is the near certainty that Ruiz has a perfect style and reputation (haye is going to takke Ruiz a little lightly) for you lot to reckon yer right when Haye takes a lot of rounds to stop him (but eHaye will).

Then when Haye destroys VK, you'll all go VK was on the slide (which he really is); so when Haye takes several rounds to KO the hugely improved WK, you'll say Sanders beat him in two; so when Haye then ends his career by destroying Solis you'll say Solis was out of shape (which he will be)....

 

Ruiz is some sort of bench mark - if Haye beats Ruiz then he can be called a serious HW contender to fight the K-Bros (funny to say when he already has a belt but lets be honest the only belts in the HW divison which count right now are those worn by Vitali and Wlad).

 

Are you saying that Arreola is a more tested/experienced HW that Ruiz?

Cause I dont get it, Ruiz has fought some big names. Arreola went to the biggest fight of his life totally out of shape. When Arreola actually beats a former champ or serious contender let us know, cause from where I am standing he is a total hype job he did just enough to get the pay day in today's weak as **** HW divison.

 

and by the way I am not some Haye fan who is bigging up Ruiz just cause they fight next. I like the K-Bros and think that in most other era's no way a guy like Haye can step up to HW - he is not the new Holyfield - just a guy trying to make the most money he can in boxing by taking advantage of the weak and boring HW divison (cause Vitali and Wlad are the only fighters worthy of respect).

 

Are you mental? Four fights ago he was struggling with Travis Walker. Reminder: Travis Walker.

Wtf is that? That is a fighter he was struggling with FOUR FIGHTS AGO.

Ruiz is proven, consistent;aArreola is fat with heart, a few combinations and MAYBE decent power at the top level.

FFS.