Haye is a joke

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by THE BLADE, Sep 17, 2008.


  1. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Acording to WBO and WBA he is :deal
     
  2. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    haye is killing any chance at a new fan base right now with all this ****. i'm so tired of hearing about all the **** he says i don't even really want to see him fight anymore. i was intriged at first but now he's just a loud mouthed sideshow
     
  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    How pathetic is Haye when he can't even handpick an opponent? :lol: :rofl This is going to end bad for him and his Glass Jaw.
     
  4. lowblow3

    lowblow3 Former Champ Full Member

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    How do you come up with 300.000 $? It's a 140.000 $ not 140.000 £. This actually IS a ridiculous amount of money for a top ranked opponent especially when he's expected to fight abroad.
     
  5. lowblow3

    lowblow3 Former Champ Full Member

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    Who cares about Chapman? This is ridiculous, Chapman doesn't deserve to be there in the first place. We, the fans, want to see him taking on a real thread like Toney, Chambers, Arreloa etc. Low key figures like 140.000 $ will certainly not lure ANY of the bigger names in the ring with him.
     
  6. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thought you typed £140000, sorry.
     
  7. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see it the same way.

    Here are some explanations by Haye why he won't fight Toney, judge by yourself:

    "Nowhere near. James Toney has a great skillset. But physically you've just got to look at him to realise he's not as his peak". "He was a great middleweight. Someone who I watched for inspiration at his skillset without a doubt, but you look at his record of late and its full of disqualifications".

    "His last six fights show he's not in the best form of his life put it that way."It wasn't about money, I wasn't getting a whole lot anyway. I mean me going over to the UK made it a case of me giving up the lion's share of the purse anyway."

    Source: setantasports
     
  8. lowblow3

    lowblow3 Former Champ Full Member

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    No problem, actually it's even worse, Team Haye seems to have started negotiations with an offer of 100.000 $, which was later increased by 40.000 $, source: "the scene of boxing"
     
  9. kgs83

    kgs83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I must admit this HW matchmaking thing has turned into a soap opera, but totally agree with the above, Haye has in the past always taken on the challenge.
    So i think him at HW it will be no different.
     
  10. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Blade how many fighters have a better first 22 fight resume then david haye so :stfu
     
  11. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What has Hayes resume to do with this situation?

    The Blade is not questioning Hayes resume, he's just voicing what everyone thinks: Haye is making a fool of himself, by having claimed to clean out the HW division like he's the best HW to ever have boxed and now not even finding a mediocre opponent... and it's not because everyone's ducking him, no, it's because he and his team are offering lousy 100.000-140.000 $ to get a name fighter to travel to his backyard. Not even 'nobodys' in the division like Chapman take such a deal. Him even considering fighters like Chapman or Johnson is ridiculous, after all the talking he's done. To me it's like a strategy from team Haye: they offer such lousy money so that every credible opponent turns the offer down, and then he's fighting a bum claiming everybody is ducking him... it's simple: if Haye offers guys like Barrett or Chambers, or even Toney or Rahman a fair deal, they will travel to the UK and take the fight. And he would have a credible opponent against which he could prove something if he beats them.

    There's no problem with Haye wanting an easy tune-up for his second fight at HW, but he should just have kept his mouth shut...
     
  12. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What has Hayes resume to do with this situation?

    The Blade is not questioning Hayes resume, he's just voicing what everyone thinks: Haye is making a fool of himself, by having claimed to clean out the HW division like he's the best HW to ever have laced them up, and now not even finding a mediocre opponent... and it's not because everyone's ducking him, no, it's because he and his team are offering lousy 100.000-140.000 $ to get a name fighter to travel to his backyard. Not even 'nobodys' in the division like Chapman take such a deal. Him even considering fighters like Chapman or Johnson is ridiculous, after all the talking he's done. To me it's like a strategy from team Haye: they offer such lousy money so that every credible opponent turns the offer down, and then he's fighting a bum claiming everybody is ducking him... It's simple: if Haye offers guys like Barrett or Chambers, or even Toney or Rahman, a fair deal, they will travel to the UK and take the fight. And he would have a credible opponent against which he could prove something if he beats them.

    There's no problem with Haye wanting an easy tune-up for his second fight at HW, but he should just have kept his mouth shut...
     
  13. Uppercut83

    Uppercut83 The Quitschkos are bums Full Member

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    Wlad is going to have to fight him though no matter who Haye fights, Haye has called him out and Haye brings in more money than almost every other HW contender out there so this fight will happen regardless if Haye fights Danny Williams and Butterbean in his next 2 fights, all it takes in 1 Hayemaker against Wlad and we have a new #1
     
  14. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah but Haye's not the great HW he claims to be, or that his (mostly british) fans want him to be, regardless of his solid CW pedigree...
    It only takes 1 Hayemaker? Let's put it this way, it only takes one big right hand or one good left hook by Wlad to put Haye down. I think even Wlad has a better chin than Haye, at least Wlad got knocked down by legitimate HWs. And Wlad got a bigger punch than Haye too.
    Let Haye beat a credible HW first, and I don't mean JD Chapman by that, and then I'll make my opinion if he has a chance to beat Wlad or not...
     
  15. lowblow3

    lowblow3 Former Champ Full Member

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    What has Haye so far achieved at HW besides fighting a bum called Bonin? His CW credentials don't mean **** when you go up to HW. Take a close look at all the former cruiser champs (Cole, Jirov, Norris etc. who all badly failed at HW) before boasting Haye's record...

    BTW, Poevetkin has only 16 outings as a professional and has a way better resume than Haye especially when you are considering his next opponent: Wlad!