Haye is an A fighter

It took about 20 seconds... and I like how that it MUST be Haye who you underrated... it couldn't possibly be that you overrated Wlad could it? Wlad's "ATG" jab was made to look a ****ing joke.

 

Whos retiring? Vitali sure as hell isnt mentioning it

 

Lets get some perspective. I don't think about Haye being good fighter ...
he is too cautious and to much of a runner than fighter.
Wlad ain't fighter as well but he is more of fighter than Haye.

Vitaly - A fighter
Wlad - B+
Haye is more like B/B- grade

 

they dont want haye again because haye made them look like shite. haye would take the rematch in a heartbeat, but, they dont want it because they know haye is a tough competitor. that is why they rather see haye vs. vitali because they think vitali will exploit haye's weaknesses. but, the truth is haye will be a bigger headache for vitali than wlad. hes just too quick for vitali. it will be kj vs. vitali all over again, only this time kj has something to offer offensively

 

haye is very good! Beats everybody at heavyweight outside of the klitschkos!
But i would like him to take on vitali! i like his chances in this one

 

Haye is a Q fighter, as in quitter. Just let his boxing license expire. And how will he be remebered if he walks away now. HE WONT....

 

felix trinidad was an A grade fighter, he stepped up to middleweight and lost to the best there in hopkins, but is still considered an A grade fighter due to his achievements at his optimum weight.
So can the same not be the case for Haye? Haye an A grade cruiser stepped up a weight where the difference in size is about 35lbs and 4 inches, only cruisers are rated based on how they do at a different weight class

 

I think that's fair. You don't go 12 rounds with wlad if you're not a good fighter. Haye suprised me. Thing is if he had more respect for the sport, he could have been a much better fighter. Like you say he suffered with stamina and balance problems, which are things that can easily be worked on.

His chin isn't the worst or the best but with his head movement and speed, he could have gone a long way even with a mediocre chin. Look at how far wlad has gone. He does well in avoiding getting hit consistently and that's down to his great defensive work, which haye could have improved on if he got a better trainer and took on more bouts in the HW division gaining the experience.

 

Sure as hell didn´t look like an A fighter versus Valuev or when Barrett put him on his ass. Against Wlad, all he wanted to do is to run and fall like a total *****,to try and bait the ref into DQing his opponent. A coward´s tactic. The toe thing was another cowardly move. Unfortunately, in over 3 years of being a HW there´s not much evidence for Haye being an A fighter, as he talks more than he fights. His best win is still over an ancient Ruiz.

 

One of the stupider post i've seen.

 

Only in England.:rofl

 

It was a great performance by Wlad, and honestly, I expected Haye to do as he did, but I thought he would find more success. I was honestly impressed with Wladimir as a legitimate heavyweight threat, in a way I never was before.

It is possible that Haye could follow up on his threats, he does have the athleticsm, but I don't think he was mentally prepared for that level of opposition because figurately and literally Klitschko stands far above all present opposition aside Vitali, who many say would beat Wlad.

For all Haye's athleticism, and he is a great athlete, he doesn't seem to have the mentality of a fighter, and he needs to think about what he wants to do with his life before he proceeds on because he was more concerned with self protecting himself, as opposed to accepting an inevitable challege the last time he fought by taking risks to win the fight.