Haye-Klitschko Theory. Putting my balls on the line here!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by shaunster101, Jan 7, 2011.


  1. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Right, I'm kind of putting my e-balls on the line here as this could get me laughed outta here, but this is my take on the whole situation and how I think it will play out.

    Let me know what you think?
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    There's no real fall out, the fight is all set for later this year and everything is agreed in principle, hence that latest negotiations.

    Wlad fights a ridiculously low risk walk over in Chisora, freeing himself from the current RTL deal, leaving him free to negotiate a new TV deal in Germany. This deal will obviously be FAR more lucrative than the current one as it includes a guaranteed fight and potential rematch against David Haye. This easily brings another few of £million to the pot, which will be split down the middle.

    (Remember, Hayemaker were really not happy with splitting everything 50:50 considering the disparity in value between Haye's Sky deal and Wlad's RTL deal. It seemed a real sticking point and a deal breaker)

    In the meantime Haye gets his mandatory against Chagaev out of the way (providing Ruslan is deemed fit) and completely clears the path for the fight and potential rematches and fight/s with Vitali. *EDIT - something I initally overlooked, which adds further creedence to the theory is that the Chagaev fight would mark the end of Sauerlands options on Haye, which means even MORE money goes into the pot for both fighters. (Thanks to Uncle Rico!)

    Of course, neither party can come out and admit to this as it would be a PR disaster, so they let the plan play out, both parties blame eachother for the lack of a fight, the bad blood continues and probably intensifies and the public interest remains, or even grows.

    As much as people discuss the bad blood between the two parties, they are no mugs. They are very shrewd in the money making business, and they know full well that they both need each other for both their career high paydays and their career defining fights. There is not way that either party would sacrifice this kind of money over some 'he's said this, he said that bull****'. These are grown business men, not kids in a playground.

    Looking back everything (bar the Harrison fight) that Haye has done since the 2009 fight that fell through because of Setanta has served to make this fight even bigger. He has secured himself a World title and a lucrative PPV contract. His conduct means you now have even more people who want to see Haye get knocked out. ****, we've even had Wladimir Klitschko making youtube videos calling David Haye a *****!

    This fight happens in 2011 and the collapse of Setanta turns out to be one huge blessing in disguise for both fighters (who knows, maybe even Vitali :yep)

    Now, am I mad?

    Does this not make a tad more sense than (and even explain) the whole 'Haye's a fraud/Wlad's a ducker' bull****?


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    *EDIT - people have mentioned that Adamek's name is now being mentioned for a potential 2011 fight with Wlad. I'll laid my balls on the line this far, I may as well go all the way and stretch my sack out a bit. Here goes:

    I thought of the Adamek thing myself. And this is where (although it's exactly what I would do and is logical) it makes me sound like a bit of a loon.

    If this whole scenario is true they're not exactly hiding a lot from the public. You certainly can't admit to what's going on because it would be a PR disaster for both parties, not to mention weaken Wlads hand in the TV negotiations. All you do is instead of coming clean, they continue to slag each other off for the fight falling through. How do you make it seem more authentic - stage some half arse negotiations with other fights and make sure that the public know about it.

    Time to put on my tin foil hat?
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Right, if you ****ers spend the next few days posting the back and fourth Haye's ducking, Wlad's ducking **** and ignore this thing of beauty then you're definitely all going to hell
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    makes just as much sense as most of the fan boy arguments ive read so far. i would believe this theory before i believe that the most dominant heavy in the world is ducking a cruiser with an anemic heavyweight record.
     
  4. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Thanks for your input bandeedo
     
  5. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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    Sounds plausible, i mean, this is boxing after all, who knows what goes on behind the scenes.
     
  6. sosolid4u09

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    i certainly hope your right shaunster. its possible

    the problem is, it does sound too good to be true. its hard to believe how petty and petulant both sides have been. but after the floyd/pac fiasco im kind of pessimistic haye will EVER fight wlad.

    i think it is what it is. haye and wlad will never fight and us boxing fans will be the ones who suffer
     
  7. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    The theory stacks up at the moment. We just have to wait and see what happens with these Wlad-Adamek rumours. If Wlad does sign to fight Adamek then the theory falls down.
     
  8. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    I don´t think you can get a better TV deal in germany as we do not ave any PPV Channels.
     
  9. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    You will never be PacDbest :bart

    (But your theory is a good one, and likely to be spot on)
     
  10. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    No, you can't get a ppv deal, but with a fight of this magnitude you can get stations bidding for the fight. If RTL don't improve their terms then you tell then you're going to see what else is out there
     
  11. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    RTL is the most succesfull TV station in germany and I don´t think any station will invest more money in a boxing match than RTL. But who knows...
     
  12. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I'm no expert but i'd bet that the next contract they offered Wlad would be an improvement on the previous one.
     
  13. BoxerGaz

    BoxerGaz East Side Boxing VIP Full Member

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    thats just it mate, who knows.... and i think its got alot more to it tbh.

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  14. Boggle

    Boggle Grozny State Of Mind Full Member

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    It's not at all far-fetched. I don't know why everybody gets so damn torqued out of shape about negotiations, this **** just happens over and over again. It's all a game.
     
  15. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It makes sense when you consider that fights are all about the money.