Haye makes a very good point

They all received tremendous amounts of punishment in the process. Haye would go down from most punches that Wlad landed flush on those 3 people.

 

I'm a big Haye fan even more now after meeting the guy! But I know the Klit fight is a hard one! I still think he has a better chance then most of pulling it off.

 

But it was clearly gone by the time Williams got to him. Tough to dispute that.

 

It wasn't gone. The thing is Tyson's devastating KOs were the combination of his power and speed. The young Tyson was also able to put great leverage on his punches. The old Tyson clearly lost his speed and his technique (leverage) also wasn't what it had been. His raw power was/is still there, but it was not nearly as effective without the other two factors (speed + leverage).

 

I agree - said the same kind of stuff in an earlier post too.

 

Tyson was explosive for the first few rounds against Williams. He was hurting Danny with every punch he threw. Infact the Tyson in those 2-3 rounds or so was probably the best version of Tyson I've seen for years.

Thats not the point though. Lets get back to sucking on David Haye's nuts like we ought to be.

 

:good

Haye is merely hyping himself. Nothing suprising about that.

I just hope he takes on a good heavy for his first fight, though; not some t can who won't test him.

 

Williams says himself Tyson hit harder than Vitali, but Vitali was 'more consistent'.

That either tells you that Tyson still had great power, or Vitali never had much.

 

I think Haye is going about his career just fine. He's got potential to do great things, and win or lose it'll be fun to watch and he'll sell shitloads on PPV.

 

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lb height reach
David Haye 225 6'3" 80"
George Foreman 220 6'3½" 82"
Larry Holmes 222 6'3" 81"
Muhammed Ali 215 6'3" 80"
Ken Norton 215 6'3" 80"
Michael Spinks 200 6'3" 76"
Evander Holyfield 217 6'2½ 78"
Joe Frazier 215 5'11½" 73"
Mike Tyson 220 5'11½" 70"[/code]
Looks like people around Haye's size have managed pretty well in the past...:good

 

When people talk about Haye v Wlad they talk like all Haye has to do is turn up

Hey guys Wlad will be able to punch back!!! And i will put a pound to a penny Wlad has enough speed to keep Haye guessing and he will have the power to switch Hayes lights off and early.

After all the **** Haye has talked about Wlad when they fight i cant wait for the staredown, then we will see if Haye is as confident as he makes out.

 

The thing is most of these "analyses" are based on Wlad's last fight.... atsch

 

Whatever Williams said, it really looked like Tyson had Williams on "***** street" a couple of times in round 1. Tyson's power before his knee injury was still there. After, not soo much. Haye will carry power at HW as he's already shown, but i don't put too much stock in williams saying haye hits harder than tyson. Williams has always seemed to forget that Tyson looked to have him out on his feet in round 1. Williams seems to want to totally overlook Tyson's knee injury so that it appears he beat an uninjured but faded Tyson.

 

WOW; pointless talk wait till, or IF the fight happens.

 

I think Haye is a tad overated myself.Their are probably five or six heavyweights that would beat Haye at this moment.Klit,chagaev,Povetkin would almost be certain by my estimation but a tall young heavy like Dimetrenko with developing power[stopped Hoffman in his last fight]and fast hands would outbox Haye and possibly stop him late.Haye-Dimetrenko would be a fascinating fight.