''Haye may not carry his speed/power up to HW''

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Haye, Mar 10, 2008.


  1. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye looks absolutely ripped at 200lbs, he is a heavyweight who is young and is able to make the cruiser limit.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doesnt matter if he does or not. Wlad destroys him either way...
     
  3. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye will be most effective if he fights around 220lbs, he shouldn't go more than 230lbs.
     
  4. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I agree, 240 is a lot for any HW, Its not as if Haye will or can rely on strength up at HW. 240 is far too much, I would like to see him 225, no more.
     
  5. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Haye realises something that most of you don't. Makes sense seeing as he's the boxer.

    A boxer who has height like Haye does, should not be underweight. And for 6'3" fighting at heavyweight 220lbs is underweight. 230lbs maybe not so much but cutting it close.

    Reason being that a tall guy doesn't have that low center of gravity that a smaller guy has. It's very easy to shove around a tall skinny man. Much more difficult if he adds some lbs to his overall frame. This is the reason why so many heavyweights today come in at 235-240-260. When you fight a guy say the size of Jameel McCline, the LAST thing you want him to be able to do is body you off for a big powershot down the middle. If he can shove a guy like Sam Peter who weighs 245-250 then imagine what he could do to a guy who weighs 220lbs. You need weight to force him to tire himself out trying to shove you around. Plus it helps you from being pushed off balance.

    JT realised this when he dealt with Holyfield. He was actually lucky in that fight that Holyfield ran into shoulder and elbow problems as Holyfield was having much success shoving Toney into the ropes. He just could not fire once he had him there.

    Too much weight is also extreme. Granted. You don't want to sacrifice all your speed. But you have to find the right mixture of mass, speed and balance. And at heavyweight, that balance fluxuates greatly.
     
  6. markbrooklyn

    markbrooklyn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares he's still gonna carry those shaky whiskers of his and they will be smashed as soon as a legit heavyweight hits them
     
  7. John18

    John18 Active Member Full Member

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    He carries his power and speed up, no question.

    His chin is the big qustion mark, but Haye will land faster than most of his oppo, and may be able to deal with the slower punches.

    Wlad whips him tho. He's not superman.