Haye On Chisoras Chances

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  1. ciaran

    ciaran Champion Full Member

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    writting chisoras chances of beating wlad i think its a bit rich comming from someone who wont step up to the plate and fight them and fighting audley harrison instead who in my eyes chisora would knock out!

    fair play to chisora 14 fights hes only 26 nothing to lose fair play to him

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  2. albertobult

    albertobult Active Member Full Member

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    what did he say and give me the link
     
  3. ciaran

    ciaran Champion Full Member

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    check the scene

    he basiclly said hes not mentality or physically ready
     
  4. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    In all fairness, Chisora would never be mentally or physically ready for Wlad.
     
  5. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which is the truth, I don't see a problem. Oh wait now I get it, he's only allowed to have an opinion AFTER fighting them, am I getting it?
     
  6. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Id pick Chisora to beat Audley. Not sure what that says about current proceedings...

    Wlad will play safe and jab Chisora into submission towards the end of the fight. It will be dull and predictable like nearly every Klit 'fight'.

    Hope im wrong and Del Boy pulls off a shock.
     
  7. ciaran

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    yeah i accept hes entitled to his opinion but look at it....after him ducking wlad and vitali who is he to question ?? he wont step up and accept the challenge ive been a haye fan up to recently when it became apparent he is ducking them i believe he would beat wlad and give vitali a tough fight so before he starts giving his opinion on chisora. haye must not be mentally or physcilly ready to face the klits
     
  8. Lilo

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    The WBA champ and former unified CW champ and one the will fight at least one of them in 2011. "Who is he?" Good un that
     
  9. ciaran

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    i bet ya he wont fight either in 2011 weve been waiting since early 2009 for it to happen
     
  10. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    h gave his oppinion im not seeing a problem with it to be honest , even if dont agree with him you have to agree hes entitled to it
     
  11. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do know Klitschkos shite 17.5 million 5 fight RTL deal is running out don't you?
    You do know the 15% Haye has to dish out to King is running out too don't you? By delaying there will be a vastly more cash available for the fight, plus Haye's saving his toughest fights till last, with full intentions of fighting them. Duck? Nah, tactical positioning to maximise earnings? Damn straight.

    Haye's opinion is more valid and has more weight than you, me, anyone on here. A 14-0 ranked 13th fighter isn't ready full stop, Haye "ducking" the Klitschkos has nothing to do with his right to an opinion.

    What would you rather? "David, what's your opinion of Chisora fighting Wlad?".......... "No comment", much better alternative eh?
     
  12. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @ BoxingFanNo1

    Absolutely Spot On!! Never seen a more convincing reply to a post. All that was missing was a Ramsay-style "Done!!" at the end
     
  13. clyde

    clyde Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Klitschko shot too soon for Dereck Chisora - David Haye
    By Ben Dirs

    David Haye
    Haye is confident a fight against one or both of the Klitschkos will happen

    David Haye believes Dereck Chisora's world title shot against Wladimir Klitschko has come far too soon.

    British heavyweight champion Chisora, 26, challenges Klitschko for his IBF and WBO belts in Mannheim, Germany in December, in only his 15th pro fight.

    "I hope he can pull it off but he's neither physically or mentally ready," said Haye, who defends his WBA belt against Audley Harrison on 13 November.

    "British level and world level is a completely different sport."

    Chisora has won all 14 of his professional fights but the biggest name on his resume is an over-the-hill Danny Williams, whom he knocked out in May.

    In contrast Klitschko has had 58 fights, winning 55 of them, 49 inside the distance.

    "Maybe if Dereck had won a European title and defended that three or four times against good calibre opposition and fought some world-ranked fighters, potentially he'd have a shot," Haye told BBC Sport.

    606: DEBATE
    Taking a beating at the hands of Wlad could do crippling damage to Chisora's career, especially if he shows the heart to hang in there

    ChuckleBrother

    "But he's had no real amateur pedigree, had only 14 fights against journeymen and the best he's won is the British title, which is no bad thing.

    "He's going to find things are different at world level a bit early in his career.

    "Hopefully he'll get a good payday, that's what it's about, earning some money, because it's going to be a hard, hard night's work for him.

    "He's got all the attributes - quick hands, he's young and fresh - but you need to be seasoned to go up against the Klitschkos."

    Haye added that even if Chisora, a 6-1 shot to beat Klitschko, was to pull off what would be a massive upset, an all-British unification match would never happen.

    "He's got a very slim chance but if Dereck is to win he'll be tied up with the Klitschos for a long time, the contracts they make guys sign are ridiculous," added Haye.
    Wladimir Klitschko (left) and Dereck Chisora
    Chisora (right) fights Wladimir Klitschko in Mannheim in December

    "An all-British unification match wouldn't happen because he'd be tied in to fight the Klitschkos for years - if he couldn't beat Wladimir in a rematch he'd have to fight his brother instead."

    Meanwhile, Haye rejected the suggestion he had let down his fans by fighting Harrison instead of Wladimir Klitschko or his older brother Vitali, the WBC title-holder.

    Haye had been due to fight Wladimir last year but withdrew because of a back injury.

    Haye went on to dethrone WBA champion Nikolay Valuev last November and was widely expected to defend his title against one or other of the Klitschkos this year.

    Instead he fought American veteran John Ruiz in April and will fight former Olympic champion Harrison in Manchester next month.

    Haye said: "There's a lot more behind the scenes the fans aren't aware of.

    "Boxers call each other out but when it comes to signing the contract and the money situation, the television rights, the venues, no-one hears about that.

    "They just hear one fighter say they want to fight another fighter and assume that means the other person's going to turn up on the day.

    "There's so much more to it than meets the eye. To understand it takes years of knowing the characters, the different lawyers involved, it's a complex, complex game.

    "But the big fights always, always happen - myself and the Klitschkos, it will happen.

    "There's loads of banter back and forth - he's ducking me, I'm ducking him - but we will fight and they're getting knocked out, and once I do that all the hype beforehand becomes irrelevant."
     
  14. ciaran

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    fair point but im not all in the know about klits tv deals and hayes 15% the way its comming across is that hes avoiding them
     
  15. THE KNUCKLE

    THE KNUCKLE RIP YER HEID AFF Full Member

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    CORRECT FOR 1NCE,BANG ON M8.....STOP HATIN ON SCOTLAND OR IL BE DOWN THERE:thumbsup:thumbsup