Haye "my back hurts" had his chance to fight the Klitschkos, both of them, instead he wormed his way out and fought Valuev, implying that the Klitschkos are somehow intimidated by Valuev's boxing skills does not make Haye the best. I guess Haye is going to claim that he "ruined Valuev" when Vitali KOs the giant in 7-8 rounds.
This is simply Haye just hyping a future fight or himself like he's done several times before. You lot may be used to dumb idiots like PBF and Bernard Hopkins trash talking for real but thats your only excuse. Its not rocket science.
You must admit, the Klitschkos have never fought anyone bigger than them and this fight could have been made ages ago. Particularly because the Klitschko goal was to unify the titles between them and Vauev's was the only one they didnt have. Yet the fight isn't talked about until Haye beats him. Strange?
By the sounds of it YOU are actually going along with Hayes verdict:- that Wlad and Vitali were afraid to fight Valuev, who before Haye fought him was regarded as the worst champion of all time. Now alot of Haye fans are acting like he just beat Jack Dempsey. Regardless of size, both Klitschko's have fought alot better opponents than Valuev. Infact i will mention again Wlad in his previous fight beat Chagaev, who is/was the real WBA champion, and had beaten the great Valuev:hey
I dont totally believe it but give me another valid reason this obvious matchup didnt happen ages ago. Valuev certainly isn't regarded as the worst champion of all time (a few idiots who know **** all came up with that little gem) but obviously he is no Jack Dempsey (and I dont think there are many people saying that to be fair). Have the Klitschkos fought better than Valuev? Probably, but not by much. And thats not saying Valuev is great, just a reflection on how bad the rest of their competition has been. As for Chagaev.... the fact he's beaten Valeuv has no bearing on Wlad beating him. Take a look on the classic forum. There's bound to be one of those "man who beat the man" threads that show just how stupid that argument is.
Chagaev is/was widely recognised as the 3rd best champion in the division prior to him losing to Klitschko. Chagaev had beaten Valuev, this is fact. Wlad totally dominated Chagaev, so whilst yes "man who beat the man" arguments are flawed, i will go with it this once. I would like to know what exce[pt for chin Valuev has over any of the Klitschko's? I will admit i thought it was a good performance by Haye, but as myself and my friend (a massive Haye fan) was watching it both of us said we could of envisioned Wlad getting Valuev out of there, or forcing a stoppage. Its swings and roundabouts, but, Haye isnt ebven hyping the fight no more heis flat out lying about certain events and putting spin on certain things that even Goebals would have been proud of. **** i ****ed the post up. Ive answered partly in your post.:-(
Dont worry, I got it. I dont agree with the Chagaev thing, sorry. Valuev has only one thing over both Klitschkos...size. The two of them have trained all their careers to fight men who are smaller than them. Men they can physically dominate. Neither of them have to speed of Haye either. Im not saying They wont beat Valuev but he wont be easy for them.
The man-who-beat-the-man argument is perfectly valid here because Haye is basically using the same poor logic to support his boast. "I beat the man they were scared to fight". Which isn't true since it appears Vitali is going to fight Valuev next. Big fight if they have it in Russia. I'd like to see it just to see to colossuses fight although I predict I'll have to watch it on youtube instead of HBO.
That's not an example of the "man who beat the man" theory. If Valuev had beaten a Klitschko, then it would be. I do think that Valuev vs Klitschko would be an interesting fight though. I'd give Vitali a lot more kudos for beating Valuev than the likes of Chris Arreola or Sam Peter.
It still makes haye an ass and i dont like PBF or B-Hop... well i did like b-hop until the whole ill never get beat by a white boy comment ****in closet racist ... besides how many times has Haye outright lied and you are cool with that why?
You do realise that valuev turned down a fight with wlad last summer right? chagaev was offered after valuev refused...
Why Peter was a better heavyweight before getting destroyed by Vit and has beaten opponents a lot better then Valuev has.. and CA at least has the power to hurt Vit was also undefeated at heavyweight without any questionable decisiond like valuev.. Valuev dont even have power.. Valuev needed a gift decision to beat a 44 year old holyfield. so why the hell is it more kudos for beating one of the worst beltholders in memory?
the fight was talked about, often one of many examples http://www.topnews.in/vitali-klitschko-unhappy-gomez-fight-285443
Shh dont use facts with Haye fans they llive in their own reality.:deal where bullshitt means more then the truth.