Haye = PFP Tallent while WLAD Klitschko is a GOOD Big Man."RUDYARD SPECIAL"

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KWNYno4Dz0&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

And look at Wlads left hook:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_sWnawpU4[/ame]

If Wlad lands this left hook Haye will sleep for the rest of the evening.

 

This video is much too old to have value for today. However, even Valuev managed one or the other counter shot connecting. VALUEV. The definition of slow.

And what is this **** about "inside fighting" ? This man is 6'6.5", he does not NEED to do any inside fighting, and he would be the man with the longer arms needing longer to connect on the inside than the shorter man with the shorter arms when simultaneously firing. It would be excrucially stupid to do so much "inside fighting" when you are the taller man with the far longer reach, greater long shot power, longer steps, quicker feet, better eye, better coordination, yaddayaddayadda.

And WHERE WAS THE INSIDE FIGHTING OF THE GREATEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME SIR "INCREDIBLE" DAVID HAYEEEE against Valuev ? Where ? His "inside fighting" consisted of ducking low and RUNNING the **** out of Valuevs reach, TURNING HIS BACK. The great superb P4P master of fistic arts himself, David "Dr. Doom" Haye, who is much faster than Valuev, did *NO* inside fighting whatsoever. He NEVER stayed in reach of anything that would qualify for inside fighting in the pocket, like Toney does 90% of the fight. All he did was blizz with his superior speed for a two-punch combo, and then ran the **** out of Valuevs reach. Yeah, real P4P qualities at work. If I hear anymore bull**** about Hayes "P4P abilities" other than athletic ones, I puke. LARRY DONALD did WAY better on the inside than Haye, connecting dozens of powershots a round, literally beating Valuev up. He just didn't have the pocket depths to get a decision, doing the same as Haye just TEN TIMES as much every round.

 

Wlad has prove himself in over 50 HW fights, including 14 title fights. Haye has 24 pro fights and was the bigger man in most of them. One fight against the worst belt holder in boxing doesn't prove how well he does against a very good big man. Most top 20 HW's today would beat Valuev, simply with basic skills and a will to win.

I am not dissing Haye, I am just saying it doesn't make sense to compare Haye and Wlad at very different stages of their career. When Wlad beat Mercer, who had given Lewis and Holyfield much harder fights, he seemed invincible. Sanders showed that Wlad's weaknesses and Wlad had the ability to modify his style. Haye hasn't met his version of a Sanders - wakeup call.

And what's up with this "Wlad doesn't bend at the waist" stuff? That wasn't designed for 6'6 fighters. Ali never threw a body punch, does that make him limited? Wlad has mastered a style that is effective for his body type, he is very hard to hit and if he would fight Valuev, he could certainly adapt and develop a spcific gameplan.

 

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And Wladimir won olympic gold in 1996 at Superheavyweight.

 

No he doesn't. He needs to apply an in and out scheme, which is NOT infighting. He couples some evasion moves circling Valuev, to suddenly change direction and come in with a one-two or a stiff jab, and gets out immediately. No infighting. A fast first step into a hard driving jab, and possibly some follow up hook when he makes Valuev topple with that jab. If not, duck. I can guarantee that Valuev would not manage to keep Wlad from walking him to the ropes, and would tire much earlier when it gets grappling.

 

Either Klitschko stops Valuev.

 

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LMAO at this clown...Haye has to prove himself...You're giving Haye a bad name with all of this trash talking you're doing..Quit being a stan and let Haye do his thing...As of now Haye\Wlad is a pickem fight IMO!

 

I'll bet anyone in here that Haye doesn't win more than 3 rounds against Wlad.

 

I would be willing to bet that the 6'6 athletically built Wlad is stronger than Valuev. Valuev is just weight, he has zero athleticism.

Wlad would find range easily, he is also in possesion of a very powerful left hook.

 

first klitschko is faster then haye for sure, hand speed!!! haye is not as fast as chambers, and wlad was faster as chambers. what is great about haye, he is very flexible, thats good to not being hit flush, he has bad but very fast footwork, and he has nice combinations, the problem is that he tries to load up for all his punches, so he is losing speed. wlads one two is probably the fastest of the last 20 years at heavyweight. a lot of people underestimate wlads speed, because he is so tall, he looks slower. look at his second fight against byrd, the first knockdown was so ****ing fast, byrd asked after that how he was knocked down. i think haye will fight very cautios against wlad, and realize after the first round, that wlad has great footwork and is very fast. and haye will get knocked out with a left hook, because he will wait all the time for a big right hand. and haye has great power!
against valuev, i think that wladimir will win via knockout in the first rounds, cause he will catch him all the time, after the first round klitschko will have a good distance and accurucy feeling and knock valuev out.

 

Uh I guarantee you being bigger doesn't make you stronger. Wlad would manhandle that huge idiot like no tomorrow.

 

Haye/Wlad is a pickem fight in your mind. Wait until the odds open up and your pickem fight will be shot down like mad.

Haye cannot beat either Klitschko and Arreola and Tua would knock his running ass out too.