Haye = PFP Tallent while WLAD Klitschko is a GOOD Big Man."RUDYARD SPECIAL"

Ban yourself now mate as no way does wlad have faster hands or foot work then haye atsch

Not saying haye beats wlad, but he is never faster :rofl

 

wlads one two is faster for sure, haye has perhaps faster combinations, i never said that haye has slower footwork then wlad, haye has faster footwork, but he has bad! footwork, being fast means not being good.

 

Mate get off wlads nuts :nut

See the one-two haye hit ruiz with :rofl

If haye has faster combinations, then surely he has a faster one-two (which is a combination)

Wlad is fast for a big guy but haye is faster, seriously sort it out mate you are embarrassing yourself :deal

 

Exactly, Anything can happen, but Haye hasnt been in the ring with caliber of Wlad (good footwork for a big man, Awesome power, and a high ring IQ)

The reasons for saying its a pickem fight is because Wlad seems to have a dislike for Haye and if he goes in there trying to be too agressive, it could come back to haunt him...Also he could underestimate Haye ( as you stated about the Sanders situation) so there's many ways we can factor this in, but as it stands and if Wlad fully focuses on Haye, I see Wlad beating him...( just my opinion of course)

 

hayes one two was fast, thats right, but take a look at the byrd(first knockdown of the second fight), chagaev(second round knockdown), and chambers(second round jab straight right) fight, imo wlad is not only fast for a big man, he is very very fast. take a look at this fights and then tell me the haye is faster with his one two. hayes problem is that he loadsup to much on his punches, he would be way faster if he would not allways punch with full force.

 

Wlad is almost the perfect heavyweight.

All he needs is a little more of a killer instinct.

 

I like Wlad. I like his boxing a LOT! That jab? That control of the distance? Outstanding!

My reason's for not being a fan are not based in not liking Wlad. It is based on the size discrepancy. If he was starching out guys his size or at least close? Great. The size disadvantages are just too big for me to ignore and give him credit for.

 

Yeah, I think about that **** a lot.

We give **** to boxers for being 5-10 lbs heavier at the smaller weights and totally forgive gigantic HW's when they outweigh fighters by like 40 lbs of muscle.

 

That was a (nice) slip that evolved into a duck because that giant man was grabbing anything to try to keep standing.

And at 6'5" with your waist that high and your center of gravity making you by default move slow? Ducking is HIGHLY overrated!

 

Exactly. Man I was hype about that Klit/Chambers fight then I saw the pics? I was just put off.

Mind you I don't feel that anyone is "at fault" at all here. I just didn't think it was a "fair" fight.

(I feel the same way about Brock Lesnar in MMA.)

 

The odds have been out for a while. Most bookies have Wlad only a very marginal favourite:

[url]http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/wladimir-klitschko-v-david-haye/win-market[/url]

 

Kind of quit reading when I read this.

 

I'll take you up on that quite happily, Haye is faster, your deluded if you think otherwise.

 

You should read the thread of his claiming that Valuev slow ass would beat Wlad.:rofl

 

Agreed. Its us on his team to keep him in check and we will. The "ring IQ" you talk about will also keep him in check