Haye returns July 6

Yeah I understand they sell well I was just thinking in terms of the fights/performance.

Again not sure where I read it but pretty sure Haye was getting the blame on here for sky pulling the plug on PPV.

 

No. It's a myth. Sky isn't especially customer orientated when it comes to cold, hard cash.

Those fights made Sky a fortune and the only reason it dropped out of PPV was because there was no other fight that belonged on the platform.

That's all there was to it. Haye - Wlad was a PPV fight, just because it was dull doesn't change that.

 

They dropped PPV because they knew it was no longer sellable, fans wouldn't shell out for it anymore because of the Audley and Wladimir debacles and Sky had the nous to realise that so they wisely scrapped it. Also why they were so hesitant to bring it back now, Hearn had to really dig in for them to agree. Froch-Kessler II is likely to test the waters for a permanent return and because that fight will likely do well regular PPV's return is inevitably and sadly very close.

If they were confident that fans would still buy PPV consistently even after those Haye disasters they've have made fights like Broner - Rees and Froch - Bute PPV. They've had to wait until a truly brilliant fight like Carl vs Kessler came along to take a chance with it again because they know the fight itself definitely won't flop and leave fans feeling pissed and ripped off like last time.

 

Neither Rees or Froch have the profile Haye does.

 

I know but since a world title was on the line Sky would still have used that as a reason to make it PPV if they thought people would have bought it, trust me. They want as much money as possible. Remember when Khan first went to Sky and they made his fight with Prescott PPV even though Prescott was an unknown and Khan only a prospect? They will make any fight seem like a big occasion if they want too by hyping it up to holy Heaven.

If they think they can get some money off the gullible then they'll definitely try to do it.

 

Sky didn't get "rid" of PPV, there were NO fights worthy of it from Haye-Klitschko (July 2011) onwards. Froch-Kessler 2 is worthy and therefore is being used again. Without PPV it's unlikely these fights would happen. Nobody can name a fight worthy in between the two dates!

 

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I agree with you mate, there was no fight truly worthy of PPV in that time but Sky still wouldn't have stopped using it if they thought they could make money out of it. If they really only use PPV for worthy fights then why the hell did Audley vs Haye get PPV? Or Amir Khan when he was only a prospect?

It's all about the pound sterling for them. Now that PPV has had a bit of a break they think lots of fans have forgotten and will shell out regularly again. Not a chance, especially if they're already paying for BoxNation.

 

What DFTaylor says is correct, but the relutation of Sky Box Office had turned to **** off the back of Haye v Harrison/Wlad. You also had Chisora v Klitscko fall apart and the Khan v McCloskey bill fell apart. Braehmer and Bellew pulled out of the Cleverly fight leaving a british title fight as the main event.

In the publics mind there was an idea that anything on Sky Box Office was going to be quality. Sky will want to regain that rep so I can't see them putting on any BS PPV's again.

 

Hopefully you're right mate. I don't mind PPV as long as it's a really big fight, not just because it's a fight that involves a big fighter.

IMO these are the only fights worth PPV; Burns vs Broner, Froch vs Kessler II, Brook vs Khan (if it had a world title on the line) and Fury vs Price (if had a world title on the line). Nothing else. Hopefully Sky realise that.

If Froch beats Kessler though they'll surely try and make Froch vs Ward II PPV as well and after the way the first fight went there's no way people will pay for it.

 

Agree with all of that. With a proper undercard they are the only reallistic PPV fights out there. But Fury-Haye not price. And only if something is on the line. Sky want people to buy into the idea that PPV events are quality. The only way to do that is put on quality PPVs. There's no chance in hell they go from Froch-Kessler 2 with a good undercard as there 1st PPV in 2 years to Haye-TBA 6 weeks later. No chance at all that Haye will be PPV for this fight at least IMO

 

The fights in between weren't big enough and there was already enough money in the pot for the fight to take place and gain the fighters purses.
I think Haye had a PPV deal in place, if he were to beat Valuev then it might have been a 3 fight deal for PPV (Ruiz, Harrison & Wladimir). Audley got a lot of money for that fight and like you said, it's all about money for Sky and every other company and people bought the fight, somebody will know how many buys it got.. Khan probably the same.

 

Haye never had a deal with Sky, but he wasnt going to go anywhere else. If a fighter/promoter can be on Sky with a PPV platform avaloble thats where they will be as it makes the most money.

 

Cheers for clearing that up.

I hope it's a quality opponent if Haye's looking to go straight to PPV which he most likely will be looking to do apart from a Fury or Klitschko fight I can't see any other heavyweight fights which would deserve it.