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You trying to say Roy Jones was'nt a great fighter..?

what the **** are you trying to say..?

Come on..?

People who acuse other people...are generally just **** themselves...

Tonight your being a complete tit...

 

Do you think Pac's roiding? How about Mayweather (he rose through the divsions in the same time, overall, that Pac did) and Hopkins?

 

Yeh ****ing 100% ectomorhps/shitpeople.

David Haye is not 100% ectomorph for **** sake...

 

Only in Boxing.

Arreola is a disgrace for not being able to get in shape.

Guzman is a disgrace for not working hard enough to make weight.

Haye worked hard enough to make Cruiser and has now moved up to HW, taking 2 years to put on less than 2 stone of fighting muscle and he's a user of ped's?

Pathetic.

 

Oh, and if he is using ped's I wish he could find one to sort his stamina as he could do with being able to fight at a pace.

 

+100%

 

I said I suspect. This might be a bit too subtle for you but when I say I suspect somebody it means exactly that. It doesn't mean I profess to know with certainty. Just like you don't know with certainty that he doesn't, and nobody ever will know for sure because he has such a small, close knit team. I will NEVER say that somebody is on roids for sure without evidence to that end, but this being a boxing forum we are allowed to state our opinions. Of course nobody in here is going to like that opinion because he's a Brit...

Roy Jones hasn't been a great fighter for a number of years. He WAS a great fighter. But you are simply delusional and have been trying to convince us on here he is still a force. That about sums you up, you're a comic figure and you chat immense amounts of shite every time you log on so if I'm talking **** this once I'll live with it. So you can start the insults up but it goes in one ear and out the other with me when it comes from you.

 

I'll say this much, it wouldn't surprise me if either used some kind of performance enhancer. What you're missing is that the reasons for thinking that Haye is using steroids as opposed to say blood doping, have to do with the bulk being rather unnatural to his body, he is tall but just not that big, and the fact that his jawline has gotten progressively more squared out.

Manny was boiling down from 145 when he fought at 130, and still has never come in at the welterweight limit. Floyd also weighed less on fight night versus Oscar than he did at weigh in. On the flip side RJJ, who went from 175 to north of 190, and then came down and appeared jaundiced probably had some help. Both Manny and Floyd took quite a long time to really move up in weight, and neither has ever filled into the highest weight they have fought at.

Haye could be all natural, but given how bulky he is compared to his actual frame, and his increasingly square jaw it just has the looks of a roider.

 

His ankles, neck, and wrist suggest otherwise. Between playing American football, training with boxers, and just generally being in gyms in South Florida for the last 12 years Haye looks a lot like many of the ectomorphs who juiced. Very expanded shoulders, chest, and large biceps/triceps. Disproportionately smaller forearms, wrist, ankles, and a very thin neck. Generally, when you're mesomorphic, your neck and shoulders should be proportionate, as should your forearms and bicep/tricep region. The somatypes are more than just muscle, as with steroids you can "change" your somatype. The somatypes are more directly related to your skeletar structure, which dictates how and what kind of bulk you can add.

 

How PED's work is entirely dependent on how you use them. Haye has on numerous occasions talked about how he does powerlifting. Powerlifting adds bulk, which eats up more oxygen, which reduces your stamina. However not all PED's do the same thing. Steroids work more directly on your muscles, while HGH is more of a recovery and fat cutting agent, and finally there are PED's which increase oxygenation in your blood.

 

**** off you tit...

 

Oh sorry, did stating my reasons for my belief that Haye has had some chemical help in a well thought out manner ruffle your feathers? I am sorry you're not capable of reasoned response.