Haye should just retire now

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rapscalion, Jan 15, 2011.


  1. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We all know that ***** will not fight either Klitschko brother and the only one who believes his bull**** lies is himself and some biased british people. If he is going to ***** out of a fight with them every time then there is no reason for him to be fighting at all. The heavyweight division is **** outside the Klitschkos, but any bum in the division would fight them except for Haye. Soon as he retires he will never be spoke of again, he will just be a never was paper champion in the worst heavyweight division ever. He is pathetic and a disgrace to the sport of boxing.
     
  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hell, someones gotta fight the Gaverns and Harrisons and Wiggins of the division.


    At least that way C class journeymen can get there shot, and maybe someday we'll have a HW champion like Rocky Balboa with a 35-19 record.:lol:
     
  3. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    Nothing new here. Haye agreed to every one of Wladimir 'I'll fight anywhere. . . as long as it's Germany' Klitschko's demands but Wlad wanted to fight someone else first, making a Haye fight impossible for the agreed date. Haye is a bigmouth and a braggart, but Wlad messed this one up. No-one wants to see Wlad-Chisora, and I mean absolutely no-one.

    As for the bull**** excuse that Wlad 'doesn't trust' Haye, why the **** did he start negotiations with him in the first place?
     
  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    the more i think about the haye excuse of "not enough time" the less i like it. ali fought brian london and karl mildenburger 5 weeks apart; wlad wants 9 weeks. i really don't see being an active champion, and booking multiple fights in a row as was done in the past, as a bad thing
     
  5. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its not. Theres nothing i like more than an ACTIVE FIGHTER.
    And Klit is trying to be active.
    One the other hand david Gaye fights 1.5 times a year with legendary boxers such as Harrison..

    Sucks to be his fan, really does.
     
  6. pinolero1981

    pinolero1981 Active Member Full Member

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    Vitali seems to be available for the July date. I wonder if he will pursue him or find another reason not to fight a Klitschko. I hate to say bad things about a fighter but I have just simply had it with Haye. I used to be a big supporter of him but not anymore. Not after showing the world what a big mouth he is.
     
  7. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hell yeah Ray Robinson rematched Jake Lomatta 4 weeks after their first fight. This is just another excuse for haye to ***** out of fighting the REAL champs of the division
     
  8. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why do you think the fight with chisora was made to begin with??
    you can't afford to be this naiive and actually think that haye isn't screwing this up.

    just like floyd - he's talking a good game and going out of his way to disresepct his main competition, but when push comes to shove he's talking the talk but not walking the walk.

    same as you learn how people are full of **** in real life...
     
  9. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    exactly! ****, all their fights were in close proximity to each other. imagine if lamotta read the rematch clause and said "4 weeks isn't nearly enough time!" and back out...

    or if karl mildenburger refused to fight ali because the london fight was too close...

    what ****ing fighter throws away a shot at the heavyweight title (which haye does not have) because he objects to the champs schedule? it ain't hayes business who and when wlad fights. if wlad is there on the day of the fight, he's there.
     
  10. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not naive at all. I fail to see how Haye is fault (on this occasion), when Wlad goes to the lengths of making a video to call Haye out 'any time, any place', then demands all sorts of conditions in negotations (including a German Venue), then turns round and says he's fighting someone else first, therefore putting his titles at risk. Then he says he doesn't trust Haye, which presumably he did when he made the video calling him out and sat down to negoatiate with him?

    Which part of that is Haye's fault?
     
  11. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    part where he didn't sign the contract. wlad's the champ: haye should be ****ing thankful for the opportunity of getting a shot at him. not whining like a *****.

    it comes down to wlad being the champ and haye being NOTHING more than a challenger
     
  12. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    You know what makes this reasoning twice as hilarious?

    He is now trying to get Vitali to take a fight in May, after he fights Solis on March 19th. That's the same timeframe as Wlad would have had.

    Except Vitali is older, and probably doesn't recover as quickly as Wlad, and Vitali is fighting a tough challenger whereas Wlad is fighting a bum.

    Anyone who buys that as the reason for the Wlad-Haye fight not happening needs to see a psychologist.
     
  13. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    If every fighter out there was fighting every 2 months and Haye was the only fighter bitching out then you'd have a point, but sadly, you don't. No top fighter fights every 9 weeks these days, and some barely manage every 9 months (excluding Haye).
     
  14. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    spot on.
     
  15. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    haye barely manages every ****ing year. and you can't fault a fighter for TRYING to be more active. you're right: few if any fighters fight at wlad's current schedule and we should be grateful for his activity, not complaining