Haye simply has a better career than vitali klitchko

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  1. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can make a case and it'd be a poor case
     
    Leoh, Jan 17, 2016
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  2. itsa

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    Hayes win are better. He is a two division titleist and was a unified champion in one of those divisions. Vitali has never been a unified champion of any division. SO wtf are you talking about
     
    itsa, Jan 17, 2016
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  3. On The Money

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    Amazing what a comeback win against a no hoper does for his dikriders.
     
    On The Money, Jan 17, 2016
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  4. itsa

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    I assume you mean klitchko vs peter
     
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  5. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Nice you admit wbc champ Peter had no chance vs the great Vitali, even when he hadn't fought for four full years. :good
     
    On The Money, Jan 17, 2016
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  6. itsa

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    who cares how long he didn't fight? and I put peter on the list for vitali already. Peter is good but overrated
     
    itsa, Jan 17, 2016
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  7. itsa

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    Must be hard to admit it, but in years time and after the dust is settled I'll take a 1 division champ vs a 0 division champ
     
    itsa, Jan 17, 2016
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  8. madballster

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    Name 3 solid wins for Haye. Then put Vitali h2h against them. Then stand in a corner and weep.
     
    madballster, Jan 17, 2016
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  9. itsa

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    this isnt a h2h thread. You can't even read a :lol:. Get out of my thread

    Vitali only has 1 more victory than haye over world title holders.

    However, Haye has 1 victory over a unified champion. One thing that Vitali has never been able to accomplish. IMO that puts him over the edge
     
    itsa, Jan 17, 2016
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  10. HerolGee

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    victories at CW aren't "another division" really, they are just a subgroup of HW. CW is just an excuse to waterdown the already stagnated HW division.

    several of vitalis victories are over CWs of the calibre Haye beat..
     
    HerolGee, Jan 17, 2016
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  11. itsa

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    haye is a cruiserweight going up and fighting modern SHW to me thats more impressive than a SHW fighting cruiserweights

    edit: sorry, "sub-heavyweights"
     
    itsa, Jan 17, 2016
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  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yes that's true of course. but CWs are just HWs really that the world boxing organisations have hlped create more money from with another division..


    but you are comparing resume not feats, or opponent heights.

    anyway they are both HWs, if they don't like the rules they can always get another job.
     
    HerolGee, Jan 17, 2016
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  13. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm just pointing out that a smaller hw is at a disadvantage nowadays and always which is why CW was established.
     
    itsa, Jan 17, 2016
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  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    whislt extra mass is an advantage in puncnpower if you use it correctly, its also a disadvantage in speed and fitness.

    CW was established to make more money, nevermind the lies they told you.
     
    HerolGee, Jan 17, 2016
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  15. Big Ukrainian

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    And Haye's comeback against #105 Mark de Mori is more impressive than Vitali's comeback against #2 Samuel Peter or Ali's comeback against #2 Quarry.

    And Chisora, Audley, Valuev and Mormeck are great wins:deal
     
    Big Ukrainian, Jan 17, 2016
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