haye is gonna rock this **** hardcore. its about time we got a heavyweight besides klitschko who wasnt 500 pounds or over the age of 40
I would actually LOVE to see Haye/Peter. I think that would be very interesting for both guys....Thoughts?
I don't think he'll enter the ring at 230. He'll probably show up around maybe 225 which is only 10 pounds different than what he was weighing at Cruiser on fight night :good
I think you might be right.:good 230-235 seems to heavy to me. 220-225 seems more natural. Hopefully we will all get to see him soon. then the **** talking will really start depending on his performance. :bbb :bbb :bbb
I think people make waaaaay too much out of the fact that Haye is coming up from a mere ONE division below heavyweight. Hell, if Haye came into this fight at 201 pounds, he'd still probably have enough power to KO most every heavy whom he can get to. The power difference in Haye at Cruiser, as ripped and strong as he was, was probably not much, if ANY, less than most of the heavyweights. You all make too much out of him being a cruiser coming up. Power is POWER, and someone like Oleg or Rahman probably have no more KO power than Haye did at cruiser. Haye is a fast and powerful fighter, period. And him packing on more muscle, and trying to keep his speed, with only make him that much more powerful. But he was probably on par with most heavies, while he was still a cruiser. Power is power, be it cruiser, heavy, or light heavy.......... and it gets results, when landed correctly. The shots that Haye knocked out Mormeck with would probably KO most heavies, as well. Regardless of what Haye weighed at the time.
If thats true that is friggin brutal stuff! For comparison I'm 155 pounds and in a cutting phase and consuming 2000 calories a day, so for a man of his size to be consuming so few calories sounds to me both brutal and stupid Still, Haye undoubtedly employs people for these type of things who would know better then myself. Sage
If Holyfield can do it, hell, why can't Haye? His training, diet, and mindset seems to be intense. I'm rooting for him.
What has what he did to make weight for Enzo and Mormeck got to do with how he will fare at HW? During camp for a HW figth he is hardly likely to follow the same regime as for a fight at 200 is he?
I don't know; Roy for a time seemed to not loose speed on his way up. Although his example is admittedly rare.
that i can agree with but most of that interest is based off his and Sentana's delusional banter. it was funny for about a month, but the **** is getting tired and irritating. many of his fans belong in a mental institution. they add nothing substantial except lame catchphrases :yep haye fans need to take a hard look at the Fragomeni fight and tone down their predictions til he actually beats a legit hw. he's an elite hw prospect...that's as far as i am willing to take it right now until he proves his metal
But he's not gaining much size. He's just not going to be draining hmiself to make the 200lb limit. On fight night at cruiser, I expect he came in at at least 220lbs. Welterweights put on, like 14 pounds, so given his much larger frame, it's possible he could have come in at 230lbs too. And what will his weight be at heavy? 230ish, I imagine. Haye is pretty much a boiled down heavyweight. There will be little difference between his weight on fight night there, or at cruiser. The only big difference is now he won't ever need to drain himself so severely.
Yes that's true. We'll have to see what happens. What makes me laugh is the WALD fans scoffing at Hayes so called weak chin and saying he's fought no-one at heavyweight (true I know) but then having a go at him for challenging WALD first chance he got. WALD backed out of it, that's a fact. You can't have it both ways. Haye can't fight WALD in his first outing that much is obvious so he's going to have to fight the likes of Rahman/Maskaev/Toney/PETERS or whoever and now the WALD fans are scoffing at that too because Haye is going for 'bums'
Yes the Haye hugging is annoying but no more than we get for any other fighter on here. I agree Setanta are building him up like the next version of Ali or something but you still cannot argue with his record at cruiser, when he was literally killing himself to make weight. His dismantling of Enzo sent out shock-waves to the entire heavyweight division in my opinion which is why he's struggling to make his first match.