Haye to face Kitshchko in June, in London!!

I'd love know what David's thinking here because on first glance it appears he's being brave to the point o foolishness. I'm guessing he has a plan in mind to exploit some perceived weakness of Vitali's. I wonder if he's going to fool everybody by boxing for points rather than trying to bomb VK out of there. I hope so as I seriously don't see his punches having a concussive effect on Klitschko.

If he is indeed going to try and box I just hope someone can get him to raise his mits! He can't rely on his reflexes fpr 12 rounds.

Anyway, this strategy could exploit slowness and possibly poor stamina and could just work.

Gotta hand it to Haye though. He said he was coming up to fight the best and went straight after the toughest opponent (for Haye Stylewise) out there. Maybe now people will see why he ran his mouth so much. He's goaded Vitali into this without a doubt.

Very clever individual, Haye.

 

I don't think we can rule out Vitali going down.

How many punchers has he fought?

This is the heavyweight division, a well timed shot from Haye could put anyone down I think.

 

Vitali took a monster uppercut from Lewis and didn't go down - that alone demonstrates to me the quality of his chin. True, you never know, especially with heavyweights but I just don't see it. Vitali's chin is in the McCall/Chuvalo class IMO.

 

haye is in a win win situation thats probably one of two things going in his favour, that and speed

 

But the effect of the shot meant that he was draped all over Lewis like some pissed up, drunken *****...he was definately on ***** street.

 

More importantly, Vitali is after all 37 years old and will be 38 by the time this fight comes around. Punch resistance does decline, and he hasn't taken any real heavy shots since Sanders in early '04. You also can't discount the fact that, if Haye can get through (that's the key), there's a question over both that and cuts as well.

Sure, Haye by KO is the least of the likely outcomes but the 100% certainly from some quarters in General seems a little presumptive. There are ways.

Personally...I feel Haye will be looking to outslick Vitali over 12. Do what Herbie Hide did for one round, for twelve

It's been a real hornet's nest in General.

 

Exactly

How many times has Vitali been caught big by a known puncher ?

All we have is the Lennox fight to go on and while that uppercut was savage it wasnt a knockover blow because of the angle and that Vitali pretty much held on for dear life.

If Lennox had landed with the 1-2 that he knocked Rahman out with Vitali gets knocked out.

 

Corrie Saunders hurt Vitali at one point in their fight..........early on I believe

Saunders can bang though

 

Lewis almost had him towards the end of the sixth, a short right against the ropes and Vit hung on for dear life, see 6:02 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k6SlHggAJoY&feature=related

people-and I use the term loosely-on the general forum are calling him "a man who cannot be knocked down"

 

Vitali has got a great chin but he's no McCall or Chuvalo chin-wise. He hasn't faced enough punchers for his chin to be regarded that highly.

That uppercut from Lewis was muderous though and would have had most HW's out cold.

 

Haye's power at HW Isn't exactly proven to be above average yet though, Barrett was very negative and even Audley stopped Bonin.

Haye will never hit as hard as Lewis.

 

I think I would already qualify it as 'above average'.
Don't think he's shown he's a murderous puncher yet, but he seems to have carried his weight up fine.

Audley took several rounds to stop Bonin (and that was seen as a quick stoppage too) while apart from the Couser loss Barrett has usually been very gutsy and durable. Wladimir had to beat the **** out of him too to finish him off in 7.

 

Questioning Hayes power at heavyweight is silly. In his two official heavyweight fights he has rocked/hurt his opponent pretty much every time he has landed AND THAT INCLUDES JABS!

 

I still have doubts over Vitali's chin. He seems to have built a reputation because he survived one punch.

The uppercut is a punch where monster ones land, but the person won't always go down, not sure if it's because of the angle or what.

Look at Calzaghe - Kessler, Kessler lands a huge uppercut, which Calzaghe survives....but then he gets floored by a straight right from Hopkins.

 

Haye is beginning to win me over again, the story at the restaurant is genuius.

Really is starting invoke comparisons with a certain other fighter with these mind games....one who tormented a feared heavyweight champion when he was shooting craps, one who set up shop on his front garden.....one who acted like a buffoon at the subsequent weigh in....

These sort of shenaigans helped make Cassius Clay who became Muhammad Ali, a legend when he backed up his claims.

I do believe Haye has the ability to do the same, but getting through both Klitschkos is a huge ask.

I admire his bottle for attempting to do so though.