Was reported that had Haye beaten Klitchco earlier in year Hopkins had instructed Richard Shafer to pursue this fight.Personally I'd like to see it-would be a ballsy move but with BHOP you cant write him off.
Would'nt nessesarily argue with that but most thought Pavlik would spark him and he could'nt lay a glove on him.If anyone could pull this off its Hopkins.He's also one of Hayes boxing idols-he's always goin on about how much he admires Bhop's ability.Haye might be a small enough h'weight to make it viable.
#1 - And a lot of people knew that Pavlik stylistically was perfect for Hopkins and knew that Hopkins would comfortably win. Not to mention Pavlik was in fact ill in the run-up. #2 - Pavlik obviously did hit Hopkins on occasion. I hope I don't need to remind you that there's a big difference in what happens when a 160lb moving up hits you, compared to an explosive power-punching 215lb heavyweight. #3 - Over the course of 12 rounds, of course Haye will land. Hell, he's probably just as quick as the version of Pavlik that fought B-Hop, who was slow, flat-footed and plodding and yet he managed to land on occasion. Not often enough true, but he's an accumulative puncher. Haye might only need the one shot. And #4 - not directed at you. I doubt this is true. Why would Hopkins really want to take on Haye if he'd of beaten Wlad Klitschko when he didn't even want to fight Tomasz Adamek?
I don't believe this fight would have ever happened, nor do I think it will ever happen in the future. Haye has said many a time that B-Hop is one of his heroes. Haye has even been in camp with Bernard before so I can't believe Haye would have persued a bout with Hopkins. Bernard is old enough to be his father for crying out loud! Hayewouldhave nothing to gain from such an encounter! Haye's career is just taking off, while Hopkins is at the end of his career. In fact, Haye has proper respect for Hopkins so it wouldn't surprise me if Haye seeks advice from him or tries to learn from Hopkins!
Of course the size and power is with Haye but-earlier in his career he was dropped by a journeyman supermiddleweight and walloped by a 39 year old Carl Thompson.Hopkins is one of the greatest fighters of his era.Mormeck had him almost out-he was 35 himself and probably tad overated.Botom line is would it sell ppv-and this kinda thing is what intrigues people.Thats why Joe Public took an interest in the Haye Valuev fight.If they'd known how mediocre and lumbering Valuev was the public probably would'nt have given a crap bout that fight.As it is they couldnt have been entertained.
Mock dropped him because Haye was inexperienced. He left himself entirely open looking to throw punches, and subsequently leant right into Lolenga's best shot that hit him square on the temple. I take it from that you haven't seen the Thompson fight? Again, inexperience - and coincidently the single best thing that happened to Haye in the scheme of things during his career thus far. Thompson was known for having a tremendous amount of heart. Haye expended all his energy trying to stop Thompson who somehow stayed on his feet, and as such by round 3 or 4 Haye was exhausted. You notice he was still on his feet at the end despite the number of right hands he took. Firstly, I'd like to ask to what extent was Mormeck 'over-rated'? Nobody was proclaiming him to be an elite fighter in the first place, but he was still very good and the cruiserweight champion. And secondly, he didn't 'nearly have Haye out'. Haye did the sensible thing, he was stunned by a punch by a fully fledged CW that again hit him on the temple, and he took a knee - showing he'd learnt his lesson from the Thompson fight aswell.
Ive seen all of Hayes fights actually-have you? Certainly Haye proclaimed Mormeck to be a top fighter.You seen the Barret fight-Haye was floored in that and admiited himself it shoulda been called a knock down.Haye's good but he wont save ****.Every fully fledged heavyweigt has a chance of checkin that dodgy beared of his including dare I say it John Ruiz.
Well written. People seem to have some odd thoughts on the Thompson fight and its clear that many people simply have never seen it. Just like Nigel Benn getting schooled by Watson, Haye getting beaten at that stage in his career was probably the best thing that could have heppened to him. He was getting sloppy with the training and not taking it seriously. Nothing quite focuses the mind as getting beaten because of your own mistakes. People also forget it was just his 11th fight and he was already fighting ex world champs like Thompson and Williams by then and was in fact already challenging for a minor world title belt.
Hopkins has a lot going for him in the way of patience, amazing defense and counter punching. He's also in great condition. Haye seems impatient, and that could be his undoing.... But, Haye is obviously a bigger, stronger guy with quick, powerful hands. I think it would depend on the catch weight. There is a lot of difference between 180 and 200.
Wow. Great comeback. Yes. I have. So what does getting dropped early in his career have to do with anything? You do realise a certain Cassius Clay was dropped and badly shaken by Henry Cooper, don't you? Is his chin 'dodgy' aswell?
Great comeback-ok,how bout "Have you,******?" There,I'm a real wit now. Jesus christ pal take it as read ive seen all of Ali's fights etc.Dont compare David Haye to Ali-I think you realize thats absurd.
So you're going to act like a clown instead of addressing any of my actual points? It's okay, I realise you're out of your depth.
To clarify David Haye's probably the hardest puncher in boxing at the minute-If his chin was a bit more solid than it is he'd have a good chance of dominating the division.As it is he's a chance of beatin anyone but against the big punchers I wouldn't fancy his chances.In any case he's said many times he wont fight beyond age 30 so doesnt give him alot of time.
