Haye v Chisora blood testing for PEDs....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by sir axeman, Jul 11, 2012.


  1. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does this proove they're clean as Adam Booth suggests in the press conference...says this way no masking agents help. But how long do certain PEDs remain in their systems if they were to have been using them? Can they cycle off in good time before their blood tests? Dont get the impression they were random blood tests.

    Discuss!

    Hayes physique always had me think he was a juicer...not saying for a fact he is (but I do tend to believe they're pretty rife in boxing and especially at heavyweight were there are no weight limits). Did Haye get all his muscle naturally? Did he build up from Cruiserweight totally naturally? Not wanting to start an argument that leads to no cast iron answer...but well, you know....
     
  2. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do people always think you cant build muscle without steroids?

    Haye was a 6'3 200lb Cruiserweight who added what 15lbs at most since moving to Heavyweight and he allowed himself 8 months to put that weight on before his first Heavyweight fight. Remember as well he was draining down to 200lbs and didnt have an ounce of fat on him.

    Compare that to his Heavyweight frame and he has a slightly higher fat % and that extra 15pounds is nothing.

    Just look at the weigh in for the enzo mac fight, Haye was ripped to shreds at 200lbs, he hasnt had to be that ripped at Heavyweight.

    If you have the right diet and workout properly you can put muscle on easily. Ive done it myself. Doesnt automatically mean steroids.

    Booth did also say the test they did a few days ago was a random test.
     
  3. thawk888

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    Roids...

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  5. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    If anything I'd turn the other cheek when it comes to PED's & the Heavyweight division.
    (Ain't that what we really want?? Who wants singles in a HR derby)
     
  6. godlikerich

    godlikerich Active Member Full Member

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    Haye used come come into the ring at 210-215 in his last cruiserweight fights anyway. He's put hardy any weight on at all, hence the reason he is still very fast. Muscle mass would not help him at heavyweight more than his speed and explosiveness would.
     
  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If there are athletes who can dodge the official olympic drug testing, Im pretty sue this 8 week testing window can easily be dodged too given the right aid. Angel Hereira himself said he created drugs years ago still undetectable today.
     
  8. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With the correct diet & training in place - you can easily put on mass. Train like an animal and eat like a monster. You don't need steroids to get a great physique. It's very possible to obtain a physique like Haye. I bet his diet is strict, and he eats all the right ingredients to maintain.
     
  9. |A|C|S|

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    some people can put on muscle easy some cant, most people in gyms who are 14stone+ take steroids, you wouldnt think it because they are not huge but ther is a limit of how big the average person can get, Haye does look huge but im glad hes doin testin
     
  10. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    14 stone on a 6ft person is nothing, unless your like 5'5 in height then saying most people in gyms who are 14stone plus are on steroids is a bit far fetched. I think you underestimate where proper diet and training can get you. Sure there are people who have a harder time to put muscle on than others but i know for a fact its possible if you do it properly.
     
  11. |A|C|S|

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    im mostly talkin smaller people because they go gym because they small lol, ye thats the thing its hard for everyone to diet properly so they just cheat, because of how Haye looks i thought he might use them just to make it easier on himself, but i give him that he does it naturally
     
  12. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    How long have they been testing?
     
  13. Hellion

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    Spot on. A 6ft 14 stone guy in most gyms would look only slightly more muscular than normal. Heck that would probably have been the case in the 60s as well.
    A true ectomorph does struggle with putting muscle on, but Haye isn't an ectomorph, he's a mesomorph/ectomorph type, which is why he's still very lean even when adding muscle. It's also why when he's been eating junk (which he's admitted he does between fights) he can burn off any excess blubber very quickly. Add to that he does train damn hard.
     
  14. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    haye takes far to much time in between fights to himself.this in itself has me convinced hes on the juice..but hes innocent untill proven guilty...plus alot of guys who have been calling fo testing have been caught doing the crime so what they are saying means **** all...

    but untill anyone is caught using

    they are CLEAN
     
  15. Abertawe

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    I reckon Booth has juiced in the past, he's been in freaky shape at times.