I've heard this ******ed logic before. Some dumb****s actually claim that Klitschko's win was better as he had Mercer down and stopped him, when Lewis won on points. The Mercer that Lewis fought may well have knocked Wlad out. :deal
Haye ducked the best CW's?? Rubbish. He went to Mormeck's back yard and knocked him out for ****s sake. :rofl Haye has faced stern tests at points in his career and other than the Thompson loss he has always come out on top. **** me, WALD was stopped by a journeyman and a semi retired fat pro golfer, but he is still considered the best fighter at heavyweight. :deal
Ok so now you admit that you did not know he fought mercer until after you posed that crap on the other post.. oh wait but you meant something other then what you posted :yep Also Haye never had all the belts at cruiser, He did not Fight Adameck or Cunningham, And no Mac and frag were not that impressive much like Bonin had inflated records, Mckormec was old and washed up... Holy and Morrer were not natural heavy's like you say Haye is.. Besides as much as i like Evan Fields anything he did should have an Asterisk by it*.... if he is a Natural heavy why did he " weight" drain himself for so long? why not fight fighters his own size :nut he was either afraid of being exposed or afraid of competetition. Right now he has done nothing at heavy... Ali and louis were heavy's and haye has no business being put in the same sentence as them and i dont mock would of put either one of the in trouble.. Also wlad has Never been ko'd he has been tko'd he has always got up and the three fighters he lost to have a combined record 91 W 17 L At heavyweight when he fought them. not too bad Haye has had all of 2 fights at heavy and went down against a faded Monte Barrett the same one Clouser finished in two :yep a year or two prior he has not proven anything. oh and btw Vitali has a 92% Ko ratio against heavy's haye has a 91% :bbb against mainly cruisers and light heavys yeah thats the same thing... So by your logic Vitali must hit harder and have a better chin? :hi: My point is that your putting a lot of faith in a guy who is being knocked around by people who have fought at as little as middleweight's weight. I can guarentee you that Wlad would not of been Knocked down or stopped by those same people.. Hell Mock didnt even have power ant MW and SMW had haye in serious trouble.. Haye so far has been nothing but hype his power much like his chin will most likely Fail him as he fights people in his own weight. :deal
When has Haye faced a stern test when Mock had him on ***** street and he had to Tackle him or when he fought an old Faded Mckormec who knocked him down? He may be a good cruiser but he did not fight the best available comp. and he also stated that the heavy's were bums and that he would ko two top ten fighters then fight Wlad.. he proceeds to run from Kevin Johnson and all these heavy;s are calling him out... so he then fights Barrett? Yeah he has taken the hard road alright...
Haye is still a baby in the pro game.. 23 fights he has achieved a lot. I think the truth is no-one know's how good he is at this weight yet. I must say i admire his balls taking on the klitchkos at this stage. He has the tools but can he apply them in the right way? I hope he does it because it will be one hell of a feat. On a par with Honeygan v Curry and Turpin v Robinson. 65-35 To Wlad but believe me Haye is as live an opponent as they come.. With regards to his suitability at HW his punching power with extra muscle and the easier to hit opponents seems to have been retained. Every time he touched Barrett he went down like a sack of **** and he almost took Bonin's (**** but durable) head off with a jab. If he lands of Wlad Wlad is in trouble
I can see Haye koing wlad early rounds 1-5 but then I can also see Wlad breaking down Haye or even Koing Haye early ! it's impossible to call this fight a true 50/50 and it all comes down to what happens when Haye lands on wlad and or Hayes chin when wlad lands. This will be a who has the best chin vs power contest both have suspect chins and both have good power.
Some good points,but if Haye is KO'd what excuse will he use ? he's said on more than one occasion that he was dead at the weight and is a natural HW so what if his chin is found wanting at HW ?