Haye v Usyk

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rodrigo Boom, Aug 27, 2023.


  1. Rodrigo Boom

    Rodrigo Boom Member Full Member

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    Two of the greatest cruiserweight champs. How does it go?
     
  2. Rafaman

    Rafaman Active Member Full Member

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    Uysk and its not really competitive. That footwork and movement wouldn't give Haye a chance to plant his feet and bomb. I think Usyk stops an exhausted and outclassed Haye after the 9th or 10th.

    At Crusier, Haye won big vs Mormeck and Fragomeni by stoppage. People tend to see the highlight reel ending of those fights but both men really pushed Haye, they landed many shots and found themselves within punching range easily. Haye shut them down with an overwhelming offense and his defense was leaky. A bigger, taller opponent like Usyk who has the output and jab plus the mobility wont have any problems landing on Haye. Haye can't outgun or outbox the Ukranian. He would get worked over.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This one comes up regularly, and I have a canned answer:

    Usyk has surpassed Haye in almost every metric, and climbing...

    Haye was unified cruiserweight champ, Usyk was undisputed.

    Haye was a heavyweight beltholder, Uysk is unified.

    Haye has respectable list of cruiserweight wins over Gurov, Fragomeni, Mormeck and Maccarenelli, Uysk has a stellar list over Mchunu, Hunter, Huck, Glowacki, Breidis, Gassiev and Bellew.

    Haye has a respectable list over heavyweight wins over Valuev, Ruiz, Chisora and Barret. Usyk's two wins over Joshua surpass that easily, and you can add Chisora and Dubois.

    Haye has four losses, Usyk has none.

    Usyk has been stopped or down against Thompson, Mormeck, Mock, and BellewX2, with an uncredited knockdown against Barret. Usyk has never been knocked down.

    Usyk gets extra points for being the road warrior.

    You can give Haye power if you want. He had a great right, although as we saw against Huck, Bellew, and now Dubois, the power is there if you **** him off. Every other skill-set goes to Uysk.

    Haye had a good, laudable career, and Usyk is one of the best ever.
     
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