Haye vrs Cunningham?

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  1. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He doesn't want to fight set ups he wants the K brothers. He may or may not beat them, but thats what he wants , and full respect for going after them. If you email him i am sure he will apologise for fibbing and maybe explain why he is scared of Cunningham but unafraid of Vlad and Vitali
     
  2. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He has had a few pay days already mate. Its pretty sensible to adjust slowly to a new division. He did what he said he would do and fought a ( WBO ) rated heavy. He will face the K brothers and that is good for boxing, he may lose but is not afraid to lose. He even fights for titles abroad . Surely it would be better if more guys did this, though of course only if they are American
     
  3. Eubank

    Eubank Active Member Full Member

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    Who is Cunningham?
     
  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    And, once again, OMG boxer being hyperbolic, I don't believe it.

    This is one of the things that Steve Cunningham really could do with learning though. Then maybe he could be hyping his fight with Adamek, rather than saying he doesn't expect Adamek to be any tougher than Sebastian Rothmann :yep
     
  5. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haye was heading up to hw and enzo was nagging to fight him before he went up,
    haye dont duck anyone and would have beaten sc if he had chosen to stay at cw.
    you never know ...if haye loses to the klits he may decide to come back down ,then we might see.
     
  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    He's the top rated CW, and the guy Haye would've had to beat to truly clean out the division.
     
  7. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    He did, however only knowing or telling half the story makes your point less than valid.

    He did indeed say Mormeck was his last fight, then Enzo started to shoot his mouth off and his camp offered Haye a huge British clash of two well known and marketable fighters and there are quotes from his camp to that effect. I'd look them up and quote them, but then everyman and his dog already knows this from the Setanta build up and the interviews afterwards.

    You can argue that he didn't clean up the cruiser weight division, but then it's easily forgiven when Cunningham wasn't seen as "the man" at cruiser... far from it in fact, he was/is a promising prospect with an ABC. Haye beat "the man" to become "the man". Most boxing fans who like boxing as opposed to certain boxers (for whatever reason... most likely homosexuality) would accept that Haye was the man at cruiser, so picking up another ABC was delaying the inevitable move upto heavyweight. Macca had already delayed this by 3 months of training and 2 rounds of fighting. Why prolong it for an ABC when anyone worth listening to already recognises you as "the man"?

    Mormeck was top rated, Cunningham was only rated as a prospect, lets not bull**** here.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Let's settle this now. Haye was all set to go to HW after fighting Mormeck. He could've fought Cunningham, but chose not to because he knew Cunningham had a legit shot at beating him. He wasn't going to let anyone ruin his money grab at HW. Enzo Mac is half decent fighter that Haye knew he could blow out of the water and make some easy money before going to HW. That's why he took that fight. It looks like Haye will take on another set-up or two before making noise about fighting the Klits again.
     
  9. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No Haye is a loudmouth little ***** and is gonna get owned by the Klits.
     
  10. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    No no and no again. Jesus, what is it with people talking out of their ass in this place? You live in the US and clearly dont know about or understand the lure of a big domestic UK clash. They dont have as big a boxing pool as we do, so fights like this come along once in a while and generate big money and big interest. It was a fight the British public were hounding them for. Enzo wanted the fight and made it known, Cunningham whispering from the other side of the Atlantic isn't really the same is it?
     
  11. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As soon as Cunningham loses, no doubt some other name will take his place as someone Haye scurried away from in abject fear...
     
  12. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye ws the top dog after he beat the linear champ in Mormeck, the IBF title wasnt lost in the ring so Cunninghams belt was essentially a paper title anyway. Haye was top dog after the Mormeck fight, he fought Macca because he was his biggest domestic rival and biggest money fight at the weight, it had very lil to do with Enzos WBO title.

    As for Cunnigham, he is small potatoes when you compare him to a potential heavyweight title. Why struggle with the 200lb limit to fight a guy very few people heard of for a paper title that he doesnt need?

    haye made his intentions clear after the Mormeck fight, that the heavyweight title was his ultimate goal, Cunninghams IBF bauble ust doesnt compare.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Cunningham is 31 and a major title holder, he's not a prospect. The only reason Haye even became "the man" is because Bell refused to fight Cunningham when Cunningham was his mando. Now if Haye wants to make easy money and talk about fighting the Klits, that's fine by me. However, this thread is about why Haye and Cunningham never fought. I'm just setting the record straight.

    And it seems like the so called british fans in this thread are more worried about slurping Haye then they are about the sport. Hell, you called Cunningham a prospect which shows just how much you actually know.
     
  14. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Paper Champ? That is complete bull****. Vit is gonna beat the **** outta the big mouth liar.
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Cunningham went on national T.V and made his intentions known. There was no damn whispering going on. Enzo was easy money and that's why Haye took the fight, plain and simple.