Haye vrs Cunningham?

Nicely said. I dont have a problem Haye. However, his fans get on my nerves. He has not fought a top ten heavy yet and his deepthroating fans are start crazy.

 

No one said Haye was scared. However, he was clearly the reason the fight never happened. Cunningham was a legit threat. Now if Haye planned on staying at Cruiser, this fight would've happen. However, he wasn't going to risk his HW money grab by fighting Cunningham.

 

Maybe Vit will, in fact I think he would beat Haye by stoppage. Doesnt make Cunningham any less of a paper champ.

 

Cunningham is a good boxer, but isnt exactly exciting. Even his profile in US is quite low. A fight with Haye would not be a big money fight, I would imagine Barrett fight had more profile than what fight with Cunningham would.

 

Cunningham actually beat the IBF champ to get his title. So actually, he's not a paper champ. And the reason Bell was stripped of the title in the first place is because he refused to fight Cunningham.

 

I'm American, but thanks

Cunningham is a prospect, age matters not. He's no world beater, he's accomplished very little as a pro boxer and noone outside of the US knows who he is. I live in the UK and see things from both sides and just enjoy boxing for what it is. The reason this fight never happened is because Haye was ducking Steve to pick on those little men at heavyweight... that make you happier?

 

National TV... well being born in Atlanta and living now in Manchester (England by the way lol) I can safely say that they dont get "US national TV" surprise surprise... that's like me calling out Mike Tyson from the safety of my living room then claiming he ducked me... even though he's retired (in Haye's case moved on - of which his intentions were always clear).

So you and Wushu wanted to see this fight... maybe you guys should go on Oprah?

 

You don't even know what the hell a prospect is. Cunningham has been a pro for 8 years, is the no.1 rated Cruiser and is the IBF champ. When you're fighting at a championship level, you're not a prospect. As far as him accomplishing little, he's won a title and beat 4 top 10 Cruisers. That's more than Enzo Mac has accomplished. It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about.

That's another lie. Cunningham fights frequently overseas, and is probably more known abroad than he is in the States.

You're not seeing anything with your head up your ass like it is. For someone who enjoys the sport, you seem to know very little.

Never once did I make that point. Half of you guys don't even bother to read. Haye avoided Cunningham because he was too big of a risk being that Haye was trying to market himself as a legit opponent for Wlad. Boxing is a sport and a business. Haye made a business decsion. If Haye planned on staying at cruiser, he would've fought Cunningham eventually. Being that he planned on leaving, he wasn't going to risk losing to Cunningham and ruin his money fight with Wlad.

 

Cunningham made his intentions known on Friday Night Fights, it's a show that Haye watches. Haye knows damn well who Cunningham is, and he knew that Cunningham wanted to fight him.

 

You're not seriously pushing this? The only reason this is technically correct is that it took Cunningham two goes to beat Wlodarczyk rather than one. But no-one can surely argue that doing that makes you a more legitimate champion than just beating them in the first place?

All that matters is that Cunningham is a legitimate champion who has defended his belt, he would have liked to have the profile-raising experience of fighting Haye but, unfortunately for him, he had nothing to offer to make that fight attractive to Haye.

 

This is a useless argument. A fight between the top 2 fighters in a dvision that would unify all the belts is a fight worth making. True boxing fans know this. Haye made a business decision and that's fine. However, Cunningham had plenty to offer. If you weren't a Haye fine you would admit this.

 

Pro for 8 years and has only recently beaten 4 top ten guys and picked up one belt? Okay, lets call him established then? In that case what's the lure of fighting a 30+ year old fighter who's managed 1 major belt that was vacated? I'm sure you'd be one of the first people to tell the world Haye beat another over rated bum. You'd assume he was British too had it not been for TV exposure
As for Enzo, well that was a big domestic clash, doesn't mean it was ever expected to be competative unless you listen to FW.
Trust me, no one over here knows who Cunningham is, I'll speak on behalf of the rest of Europe too seeing as it's all one country :rofl
The fight never happened because of timing, again for the blindingly stupid. "Haye had already said he was moving to HW after the Mormeck fight, Enzo talked a load of trash in the press and got the British public hyped for the fight... it had to happen seeing as the last noteworthy British fight people wanted to see was Eubank/Benn. No one knows who Cunningham is, nor do they care, Haye had effectively moved on before the Enzo Mac fight had begun. Forget risk and reward, I think Haye has shown he's not affraid of taking a risk or two, what's Cunningham name going to do for him? The answer is nothing.

 

He's more than established. However, you're too ignorant to know the difference anyway.

How about he would be fighting the highest rated guy behind him and would be unifying all 4 belts. He would also be able to make a legit claim at cleaning out the division instead of lying about it.

Incorrect. But of course, your dumbass actually thinks he knows something. Haye had a good win in the form of Mormeck, and I would give him nothing but respect for beating Cunningham. This sport should be about fighting the best. I respect guys who do that.

Enzo was an easy money grab, that's what he was.

Never once did I say Europe was one country. Of course, your comprehension level doesn't seem to be too high. I would expect to **** it up.

It was an easy fight for Haye, that's why he took it. And for the hundreth time, I have no problem with Haye going to HW. That's not my issue. However, he didn't clean out the division and Cunningham was more than a worthy foe.

He's willing to take a risk as long as his paycheck is fat enough.

Beating Cunningham would make Haye a true undisputed champ and put him on the short list of guys to have unified all 4 belts. I'm a fan, I'm worried about seeing good fights. I'm not worried about how much money Haye is making.

 

Cunningham had nothing to offer that Haye either wanted or needed.

I'd have been happy to watch a Haye v Cunningham fight, if consolodating at CW was the way Haye wanted to go. I've said before that if Haye had stayed at cruiserweight and fought anyone other than Cunningham I would have called him on that.

 

It's sad that many people on this site actually feel that way. Cunningham was the next best guy in the division and was the only other guy with a belt, yet you feel he had nothing to offer Haye. :verysad