Haye vs Averagemek

You also agree with Alexander UD Kotelnik?

 

First of all Johnatan Banks was never beaten by Enzo Maccarinelli. Johnatan Banks was undefeated when Adamek beat him and has not lost after that.

Valuev fight apart from being one of the most boring fights is also controversial.

The version of Golota was bad but so was the version of Ruiz that Haye beat. They beat them in similar fashion.

Mormeck beat Oneil Bell in a close fight but dont forget he was also knocked out by Bell in a previous fight.

 

Sorry i was confusing Banks with someone else. Have noticed though after looking at his record... it's worse than Vitalis... there's nobody worth a toss on it so where do you get the idea that he is better than Fragomeni?

Boring or not means **** all when discussing who had the better opposition mate...
There's nothing controversial about it unless you score fighters rounds for punching thin air. This is a sport of hit and not get hit... Haye landed a lot more = Haye won.

Oh please.... Golota was far worse than that version of Ruiz. That version of Ruiz was displaying better boxing in that fight than i have seen from him for years. He even left his huggy bear impression at home that night and was working behind a jab.

Oh right so both beat each other but because Adamek beat Bell... that means Bell is better right?????

 

Haye on points.

But shouldn't forget that HW Haye is injury prone and equipped with extraordinary low pain tolerance.

 

I never said Bell is better. They are on the same level but overall resume of Adamek is better.

That version of Ruiz came for a paycheck only, worse ever. He knew he would retire afterwards.

Fragomeni and Maccarinelli are extremly overrated, Banks might still make some noise at HW.

 

I agree overall resume is better. However Adamek has looked ****ing aweful against poor opposition at the weight. A 1 armed Chambers gave him a boxing lesson

 

61-19

lol

 

That version of Ruiz came to win. I'd love to know on what basis that was the worst ever version of Ruiz. Break it down for me. Don't just make a blanket statement because from where i'm sitting it holds no weight.
Ruiz that night tried to box more than he had in years, pressured Haye right to the end and by no means looked a man just there for a paycheck.

Can't see Banks doing anything at HW

 

Ruiz knew it was his last big fight, so he gave it his all, even though he was slow and old, David could of taken an example of his and shown some of those cojones against Wlad

 

Ruiz was always slow. Again i saw nothing in Ruiz to say he was shot or just there for a payday... it was just John Ruiz.

Agreed Haye should have took more risks against Wlad. He did in the 12th and won the round and landed a couple of shots that visibly hurt Wlad. Haye went in with the plan to counter Wlads jab but Wlad was smart and never threw just a single jab which left Haye having to defend with no opening for a counter. Wlads footwork was excellent on the night too which made it harder for Haye to get into range when he did launch an attack.

Haye fought the right fight, he just needed to let his hands go a bit more and maybe go to the body when Wlad lent on him rather than falling to the floor.

One thing is certain. Haye fought a better and smarter fight against Wlad to what Adamek did with the lesser brother. Showing bottle doesn't impress me when you get the **** kicked out of you.

 

Pollacks gonna be Pollacks

 

Haye by early round KO

He is too black and too slick for the coal miner

 

Haye by gang ****, audley style :bbb

 

what has Chisora done that Haye beating him makes him an ATG HW? :huh

Haye landind one good shot on Wlad was better than Golota beating the living **** out of Bowe 2 fights in a row? :-(