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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you see Haye going vs the other best Cruisers:

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    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
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  2. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    outside of Holy, Haye beats them all IMO
     
    Monstar, Mar 6, 2009
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  3. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More analysis?

    Gomez is slick and was proven champion for many years.

    Haye just ducked fat old Toney at HW, would he beat that version from Jirov?

    Mormeck 2005 is no Mormeck 2008 and he gave Haye taught fight even dropping him (I think).

    Bell in 2006 had 24 KO in 26 fights and was determined at that time so Haye chin could be the serious factor.

    Recent Adamek is a level above Mormeck from 2008.
     
    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
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  4. anthony jr

    anthony jr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    y dnt u just say u dnt like david haye and how can u say hes just ducked toney at heavy weight
     
    anthony jr, Mar 6, 2009
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  5. Cerberus

    Cerberus Kérberos, Hound of Hades Full Member

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    Haye CAN beat a lot of these guys (except Holy, Holy beats him 99 times out of 100). Haye does have the ability to win these fights. But unfortunately he also has the ability to LOSE to all of them as well. His chin is that much of a liability.
     
    Cerberus, Mar 6, 2009
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  6. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My love to Haye is not the factor, just discuss Haye vs these boxers.

    As the Haye ducking Toney it was a fact Toney offered Haye fight and Haye chose Barrett.
     
    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
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  7. MattMattMatt

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    It's very easy to come to a conclusion like that, but just because someone selected someone else to fight does not mean that they ducked them. I suppose it depends on what the definition of ducking is, I would say that it is only ducking if you avoid someone you are more likely to lose to. I think Haye would have beaten Toney but thought that it would not be the perfect fight to show what he is capable of. Just marketing, I don't for one second think that Haye did not believe he could beat an old fat Toney.
     
    MattMattMatt, Mar 6, 2009
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  8. LightningJoe

    LightningJoe The Filipino Flash Full Member

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    Who the **** is Toney in today's heavyweight division?
     
    LightningJoe, Mar 6, 2009
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  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To the truth, the fact is Haye believe he can beat anyone.

    At that time Haye was initially refusing to fight Barrett using strong
    arguments that Barrett is just a journeyman who does not deserve
    to be considered as his opponent. After a few weeks when both
    Rahman and Toney in public stated they are willing fight Haye,
    Haye changed his mind and decided to fight the journeyman instead.
    What would you call that behavior?
     
    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
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  10. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who the **** is Ali on the wheelchair and how is your question related to the topic :roll: ?

    I was asking about Toney from 2003 at the time when be beat Jirov .
     
    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
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  11. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Haye would lose to Holyfield, Jirov and JMM imo.

    I can see(primed) guys like Adamek, Hill, Toney, Gomez and Qawi giving him a bit of a tough time as well. Not saying they would win but have a good chance at doing so.
     
    andyZOR, Mar 6, 2009
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  12. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Haye knocks them all out within 8 rounds.
     
    rickx1, Mar 6, 2009
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  13. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That not possible, Haye have very poor stamina, if he is not able to knock
    them within first 3 rounds I don't see he will ever survive against Bell or Adamek.

    Moreover if Haye will not knock out James Toney in the first half he
    will not knock him out later and probably he will lose on points.
    That possible since nobody else knocked out Toney so far.
     
    Stinky gloves, Mar 6, 2009
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  14. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Haye has easily been 12 rounds before and can do so again.
     
    rickx1, Mar 6, 2009
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  15. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and who is Monte Barrett?
     
    FROST, Mar 6, 2009
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