Haye Vs Chisora 2

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Potwash, May 9, 2018.


  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think both are not what they were.
    Haye seems to be troubled by very bad injuries and I think Chisora has been matched tough so many times that I think it may have taken its toll on him.

    I would favour this current version of Chisora to win as I am not sure that Hayes injuries would hold up and think may come back again to haunt him
    Chisora inside schedule anywhere from mid rounds on I think
     
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  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    All Haye has to do is release a training video on instagram with him on the bag, then using the stepper, jumping up and down to show that his leg doesn't pop out and hitting pads before looking to the camera to deliver his con artist car salesman speech to his fans.

    ''So guys, just finished another hard grueling session. 10 sessions worth of training in 1 session where I pushed things to the absolute limit. I did legs this morning squatting and beating my previous record, upper body on bench press, and the day isn't over yet. Now just about to begin a few more rounds of sparring. Guys I'm feeling in fantastic shape. I'm doing more things than ever done in my life that I didnt even think I could do. I always knew I'd be back but I didn't believe I'd be capable of improving so much.

    2019 you will see the new and improved Hayemaker which has been worked on and tinkered with these last few months in training with my new Coach Freddy Roach. Freddy who understands how my body works, better than anyone else. And believe me, Chisora doesn't know what he is in. If he thought the last beating was bad, then he's going to in for the shock of his life this time round. It will be like bringing a pencil to a gunfight''

    Then his fanboys will all lap it all up and they'll be on here posting

    ''Haye ends the fight when he wants, providing he doesn't go into the fight injured''

    ''Yeah.... Haye will have learnt from his previous losses from Bellew and won't make the same mistake twice''

    ''Even a past prime Haye will be too fast and powerful for Chisora''
     
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  3. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Haye's punch resistance, power, movement, health.. all gone.. Derek would finish him quickly now.. Within 2.

    Haye shouldn't ever fight again!

    He shouldn't get a boxing license now even if he wanted to imo...

    Dave is broken, he can't be fixed to become a fighter again now, no matter how much he might want to...

    Mans is done, innit! :goofy:
     
  4. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    haye needs to retire he has nothing at all left and I know eddie hearn has no morals but I would hope chisora does because what will it really do for his career beating a corps of the fighter that knocked him out lol
     
  5. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Spot on with the way he would sell it to the few, but I would have chisora to stop him though.
    It should not happen if you ask me, I like delboy but even I would not like to see him ko Haye and possibly inflict permanent damage on the guy, haye has made a few quid and he should just take it and walk away from the fighting side of the game now.
     
  6. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he fights anyone he will lose, let alone chisora.
     
  7. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I'f be the first to admit I got totally conned by him...

    The guy can't thrown power shots, either gasses after 2 round or doesn't have the mentality to stick with it. Not to mention his punch resistance..

    Imagine if that was a big strong heavy like Wilder or AJ, Imagine Fury... Haye wouldn't get to see his kids after that..

    Hopefully retires..
     
  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His achilles accounts for most of that to be fair. Without being able to put all the weight on that back foot then you cannot generate any where near the same power, you also cannot absorb the same shots either as in theory he kinda had one foot in the air at all times, that effects you massively when taking a shot.
     
  9. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    No doubt it was still a big issue along with the other injuries but we were all conned buy the "I'm turning the clock back lines!"

    He can still talk a great game..
     
  10. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not me, I had Bellew by KO. The Achilles injury is a very very serious and complex injury that takes years to fully get back to 100%, couple that with what Haye said about 3/4 years ago that his shoulder will never be right again and he will never be able to throw the over hand right the same way again and was his fave punch.

    I watched it more for the pantomime and for my bet.
     
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  11. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Nice bro, did you have alot of money on it? I had Haye for the KO in rounds 1-3 LOL.. £100 down the drain, ive been fcukin terrible this year with my bets on boxing!
     
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  12. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really I had a 20 quid acca with Cox, Ward and Bellew !! lol would have got that at 8/1. But that was obv a disaster !! I then stuck a tenner on Bellew to win by KO during the fight @ 10/3 so ended up just 3 quid up overall !!

    Not a massive gambler at all, seen too many mates destroy their lives with it bud
     
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  13. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What can you do. The moneys on the table... your injured and in the last chance saloon. He took the gamble in the end but its finished his career for good now. He kind of had to take the gamble. Actually quite sad to see a boxer like haye as desperate as he is. He can't walk away from the acclaim he once had and apparently looks skint and desperate. Hayes made mistakes in his career/life...not a well liked man in the game by the looks of it. Some probably partly jealousy other down to the mans own arrogance.

    Regardless of it all tho...its yet another reminder of how horrible the game can be. A man thats had the career of haye...putting everything into it for twenty years...taking the punches...all the gym work...putting your body through the wringer day in day out doesn't deserve to be in the position he's in now. Makes you wonder how and who takes your money...he can't have enjoyed that on Saturday night and yet immediately after he's angling for more fights. I reckon someone behind the scenes will be forcing him to fight on. Its like Tyson...banked hundreds of millions and yet...somehow ended up two hundred million in debt. They take your money...put you in a position of debt then force you to fight on till theres nothing left. He's had a fortunate career tbh...still a bit sad to see anyone in that predicament tho...especially when they,ve worked so hard for it over the years. A massive part of that is his own fault...regardless tho still quite a sad sight. All these bad investments hes made etc...I m pretty sure haye isn,t sitting at the boardroom saying I think we should invest in this. Leaves the question...who,s made these decisions.

    Because I m pretty sure if you,d just banked probably about 8 million over the two fights...after that second fight...most normal people would be like that's the end of the line...set for life with the 8 million or so. Instead there always appears a desperation for more...even when they can make a good bit extra doing other things. Its like someones forcing them into doing it. Could be wrong...maybe he is just that egotistical.
     
  14. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    In no way is this beneficial for the course of this thread but if you would all just kindly allow me this....

    I TOLD YOU SO ALLLL ALONG RIGHT FROM THE START OF THE ‘COMEBACK’:p:yaay


    Thank you, I feel a lot better about it now :)
     
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  15. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Nothing wrong with that..im not a massive gambler either normally put around a score on so £100 is a big bet from me looking back now i dont know what the hell i was thinking!

    Lol i don't care what anyone says, it always feels good to say 'i told you so'
     
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