With a record of 50-1 (1 loss not by UD) Valuev _IS_ one of the best heavyweight boxers ever. I know, that haters love to hate the current heavies so much that they are blind to see obvious facts. I know that Valuev's opponents were not the greatest, BUT SO WERE THE OPPONENTS OF PAST CHAMPIONS. If you think that Valuev is crap then find me another world title belt holder who has won against more 200+ opponents than Valuev. STOP HATING. Current boxers are not worse than previous boxers. I make a distinction between resumee and record. But I won't insist upon such a distinction. But except of insults you have not proven that Wlad's 200+ opponents were worse than, say, Foreman's. On which, say, 5 win-opponents of Foreman would you bet your life that Wlad would LOSE? Insults, insults. The one who is shouting is always right?
"Valuev is one of the best heavyweights EVER" :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl Can you explain what just happened against Holyfield?
Yes, Valuev increased his record from 49-1 to 50-1. But it's offtopic. I answered this at http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3108729&posted=1#post3108729
categories suck, big time, they mean **** all! Corrie Sanders vs Carl Thompson?? if we'r getting stupid on this thread lets do it!
Again with the numbers. You're damn right Valuev's opponents are not the greatest. He needed a gift to get the W over a shot to **** Holyfield. That should tell you right there that Holy's era was by far and away better than this one. Stop hating...****, start making sense. A resume is who a guy fought. End of story. Ali, Frazier, Holyfield & Norton. Those four names easily seal it. I don't bet my life, and we're not talking about hypothetical matchups, we're talking about resumes, and George has a better one. :deal Who's shouting? I called you a dumb **** for the simple fact that you are one.:yep
Ha ha ha. Knn why do you think there are so many people on here arguing against you? Cos what youre saying is ridiculous. And stop with the figures...you sound like ****ing Rainman you lunatic!
Exactly, its not about number, its about the way he fight. Wlad is not fighting like a ATG. knn just can't handle the truth, Wlad is not that great, good but just not great.
LOL OHHH **** KNN OWNED. Suddenly Wlad is not on par with many great heavyweights. I must agree with almost everyone here KNN is a bit MORON.
Offtopic. 1) Foreman LOST against Ali 2) Foreman LOST against Holyfield 3) Ken Norton was never a titlist. He lost against Shavers, Ali, Cooney, Holmes and Foreman. Aside from losing 3x in a world title fight he has never achieved much. 4) Frazier is a 204 lbs HALF-BLIND 5'11.5'' small boxer. Wlad in his entire career has not seen anyone as SMALL AND LIGHT as Frazier. With a KOratio (10 KOs in 20 fights) like featherfist Chris Byrd (19 KOs of 41 fights). Try harder. I am not convinced. What? By losing to Ali and by beating Frazier?
So far hardly anyone has been "arguing" unless you call insulting "arguing". I am still waiting for the 4 boxers from you with a better resumee than Wlad.