Haye vs Klitschko off?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Neverchair, Feb 18, 2009.


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  1. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Because I'm witnessing it every time you post. :yep
     
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  2. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Somebody already listed 10 fighters with better resumes than WALD. You just keep trying to redefine what you think a resume is.
     
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  3. Sean101

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    Wlad knows he would get knocked out so he will probably back out and let Vitali fight Haye
     
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  4. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seeing as I started the topic i'll sort this out for you knn.

    By "name" opponents, I mean elite fighters who many consider to be formidable opponents.

    In my opinion Vlad hasnt a win over a single one. At very best you could argue Hasim Rahman but lets face it, the guys is about to collect his pension and way past his best!

    My main point was that for Wlad, having Haye's name on his record is more impressive than having Arreola's.
    If he's gonna walk away from Haye its gonna make him look bad.
    Its gonna make him look like he took the easy way out.
    Hardly fitting for a champion is it?

    Then you start challenging people to come up with lists of heavyweights that you set the rules for.

    You have been off topic from the start. I started it. I know.
     
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  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    If I was K2 I would call Dan Goosen and get the Arreola fight set.

    It will take Haye 2 years to get a mandatory shot at one of the belts if he does not want to take the fight on the champions terms then he can fight some other top Heavyweights and try to secure a Mandatory. Good luck with that Mr. Haye.
     
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  6. knn

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    It wouldn't. I analyzed already the records of Wlad and others and he keeps up pretty well. There are only a handful of others who have a better record qualitywise than Wlad.

    Just to give you an example, which you can easily check yourself:

    Wlad's last 10 win-opponents and their median career records: 30-3
    Ali: 39-13 (equals a Wlad opponent of 30-10)
    Foreman: 32-6 (equals a Wlad opponent of 30-5)

    How is that so much worse than Ali's? It's actually better in my opinion and especially considering that Wlad scored 7 KOs while Ali scored only 4.

    1) What thread?
    2) Anyone can laugh or insult. As long as they don't bring valid counter-facts it's just silly laughter.
     
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  7. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    Or fight Haye in 2010. Haye can proof how good he realy is.
     
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  8. knn

    knn amanda Full Member

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    I never redefined anything. I use the same definition I used from the very beginning. And so far noone delivered.
     
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  9. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Maybe Wlad needs to fight someone like Chuck Wepner in order to gain any respect around here!!
     
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  10. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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  11. knn

    knn amanda Full Member

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    I guess that means you can not come up with 4 boxers with a better resumee than Wlad. OK, all I wanted to know.
     
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  12. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Again, all opposition being equal you have a point. Factor in the fact that Ali fought far greater opposition (which is not even up for debate) and you don't.

    The thread with your Valuev quote in the title. Yeah, anybody can laugh (even your fellow Klit sackswingers)...at you.:yep:lol:
     
    Cormega, Feb 19, 2009
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  13. knn

    knn amanda Full Member

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    I never stated that. But by a QUICK look on their last 10 opponents HE HAS a better record REGARDING LAST 10 opponents. Get over it.

    Start a new thread if you want to elaborate with VALID counter-facts about Ali's last 10 opponents.
     
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  14. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Your definition is BS. Quality of opposition is by far and away the most important thing to look at to determine the quality of a fighter's resume. You can disagree all you want. You're wrong.:nut
     
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  15. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha HA HAA

    You ****ing Mong.

    I think ill just resort to insults now as you clearly refuse to listen to reason.

    *****.
     
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