Haye vs klitschko predication/breakdown thread ----------------------

Ive been a great fan of both men, watched Haye from his amateur days, his pro debut to the Harrison fight and felt Wlad in the last 5 yrs has really made up for some of his losses earlier on in his carrier.
After watching each round side by side of Haye fights against Ruiz and Harrison and Wlad’s against Chambers and Peter I will make a prediction based on my observation. I watched the round that both men performed in, then sat visualising what would happen trying to naturally follow the occurance of the fights i watched. I also watched Haye and Wlad fights in the last 3 yrs and tried to judge how both men dealt, with height of their opponents, speed, punching power and resistance to punch...trying to note the technical aspects of both men. Haye certainly fights differently when fighting someone taller, he looks for his power shots more, and Wlad when faced with alot of movement is that bit more tentative.

David Haye WBA vs Wladimir Klitshcko
Haye comes in at 215 pounds
Wlad comes in 244 pounds.

1st round-
Both men are introduced to the crowd; the atmosphere is electric as if the world sole energy output is in the Hamburg arena whilst the rest of the planet entire resource has been sapped. No one wins the stare down, both men’s distain is obvious and neither lets up the gaze even succumbing to several ridiculous prolonged seconds as neither man wants to touch gloves.
The bell sounds, both rush quickly to the centre of the ring trying to win the first of the psychological battles that will commence tonight. Both men strangely mimic each other in style, high right hands inches away from their faces and slightly lower left hands, Wlad circles his left hand ever so slightly looking to push it through on to Haye face rather than snap as if he is pinpointing his target. Haye has adopted a similar approach to holding his arms as already mentioned but interestingly sticks his head slightly forward using it as bate, begging Wlad to throw his left jab so that a swift counter with a right hand can catch Wlad off guard. Wlad is the busier of the two, by the half way mark of the first round with each passing second throwing more push like jabs, whilst Haye attempts to circle to his right avoiding Wlad big right hand.
The second part of the first round is more exciting, Wlad throws a telegraphed left jab, and Haye moves his head and attempts a left hook missing Wlad by ceintimeteres. Wlad attempts to up the tempo, and force himself forward throwing more jabs eventually forcing Haye to the ropes, a chopping right hand lands on the back of Haye head, both hold on. The bell rings signalling the end of the first round.
Wlad 10-9 Haye



2nd Round
Both men stare each other down, grinning through their gum shields as they still attempt to get one over each other. Wlad straight away establishes authority, his jabs are snapping out, Manny was frustrated with Wlad push through like jabs and Manny was right, several jabs catch Haye right in the middle of the face, Haye shows a slight discomfort, and moves back to the ropes, Wlad pursues him but throws a poor right hand, falling into Haye and grabbing him. This happens several times, Wlad is not able to land his hail mary, but Haye is unable to counter Wlad, as Wlad either sticks a straight left jab out or moves slightly back making Haye miss. Towards the end section of the crowd seem to boo, as Haye dosent let go, whilst Wlad starts to paw his jab out again.
Wlad 10-9 Haye

3rd Round
A slight cut under Haye left eye is seen but not something to worry about in the immediate future. Haye moves his head wih more vigour compared to the second round, again trying to bait Wlad to open up. Wlad though refuses throwing his left jab out, with snap and only throwing his right if he lands the left. By the middle of the round, the boos start to ring out with a pattern starting to emerge. Haye only threw around 30 punches in the first round and half that in the second. It looks like he trying to half that even further in the 3rd, whilst Wlad snappy jabs has become push again seemingly content with how things are going.
Wlad 10-9 Haye

 

4th round
Booth is seen demanding Haye to go for it more, and that he waiting to long, whilst Manny seems even more worked up begging Wlad to throw his right hand after his jab, and that he needs to snap it. Wlad comes out yet again throwing flurries of jabs whilst Haye is making Wlad miss more and even countering with left hooks to the body. The round is tentative again, the crowd boo...BIG COUNTER RIGHT HAND...Wlad is wobbled, Haye rushes in and attempts several hooks with both hands, Wlad holds on and both fall to the ropes. The counter right hand comes from nowhere, catching Wlad after a lazy jab. The referee has to break them up, Wlad is still trying hold Haye and both men are taken to the centre circle. Haye immediately moves forward throwing an overhand right missing and falling into Wlad hold. There are good 30 seconds left, the brits in the crowd are on their feet, the atmosphere that had been nullified through the first 3 and half rounds has suddenly picked up. Haye again attempts to throw a big right hand but Wlad controls him by hugging on. The bells sounds and Haye gives a look of contempt toward Wlad, who looks slightly disheartened. With hindsight, Wlad was winning the round again but got caught and whilst hurt did enough to subdue any more attacks.

Haye 10-9 Wlad



5th Round
The round begins, and Haye rushes forward catching Wlad quickly with a straight right hand, Wlad attempts to move back but slips, Haye runs in SMASHES Wlad with a LEFT HOOK, Wlad holds on. Manny and Vitali can be seen running up the stairs in the corner. The crowd is frantic, the brits screaming for Haye to finish him...Wlad is able to hold on. Yet again the excitement clouds the moment, Wlad is hurt but able to subdue Haye, Wlad adopts a jab, fall into a hold technique, and the entire crowd boo with displeasure...Haye is moving forward for the first time, whilst Wlad tries to snap out one jab at a time...BIG SHOTS from Haye to Wlad body, Haye is bossing the fight now and is taking more chances...the round is about to end Hayes rushes in to try catch Wlad with a right hand, BIG RIGHT HAND...Wladimir catches Haye on the way in and wobbles Haye badly...both attempted a right hand, but Haye telegraphed his whilst Wlad was a short tight one on the inside. The bells sounds.
Haye 10-9 Wlad

6th round
Both men come out for the half way mark, but the first half of the round is tentative by both, a virtual replay from the first 3 rounds...although Haye is throwing more. The round comes to an end in bitter disappointment to everyone in the arena, in fact so boring it flew past as nothing actually happened. Manny is worked up, the situation in the corner is more exciting than the round between both men, he begs Wlad to follow his jabs with right hands. Wlad ask Manny to be calm and that he knows what he doing.
Haye 10-10 Wlad

 

7th Round
Haye baits wlad again with his left jab, and catches him with a hard right hand much to the surprise to everyone in the audience...Wlad walks through it. A jab game is starting to emerge Haye catches Wlad with Jab, then Wlad catches Haye with a Jab...towards the end...Wlad is catching Haye more often than Haye catches Wlad.
Wlad 10-9



8th Round
Both men look more worn, there movements less exaggerated, there punches less snap...surprisingly both men have not thrown a huge amount of punches. To an extent that some rounds have had virtually nothing happen. OOOOO LEFT JAB hurts Haye although doesn’t wobble him, he moves back to the ropes, not a good idea...several poor right hands come in from Wlad. It as if he throws them but with not full force, wary of Haye power whilst Haye cuffs his head. Both come to the centre circle, Wlad starts to catch Haye more and more LEFT JAB, LEFT JAB...he caught Haye with two in a row now, Haye ducks under and actually holds Wlad. Wlad pushes Haye away, ANOTHER JAB, Haye eye begin to swell. The round quietens down, Haye looked tired in the one.
Wlad 10-9

9th Round
Wlad starts fast, OOOO LEFT JAB followed by A HARD LEFT HOOK, Haye goes to the ropes, SMASH RIGHT HAND DOWN THE MIDDLE....DOWN GOES HAYE, DOWN GOES HAYE. A. Booth, is seen with the white towel....A count begins...1, 2, 3, 4 Haye is on his knees, still conscious...5, 6 Up Haye gets, tries to walk it off. Wlad comes forward looking to land several jabs, missing, Haye moves back, almost running backwards, sideways...this goes on for a few minutes...the end of the round is 10 seconds away....BIG RIGHT HAND catches a tired Haye just as he tactically makes the mistake of moving to Wlad’s right side...the punch catches Haye at the tip of the glove...Haye slowly wilts toward the ropes and lands on his backside...Wlad rushes to his corner 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 Haye gets up and smiles shaking his head to the crowd telling them he is ok. The fight recommences Wlad jumps on him landing several RIGHT HANDS, the referee jumps in...Wlad raises his hand in the air, Vitali jumps in...Haye looked dazed but 10 seconds later is angry...asking the ref why he stopped the fight.


It’s all over an the NEW UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD WLADIMIR KLITSHCKOOOOOOOOO

 

With hindsight I felt a bit sad, as Ive always wanted David to win, but throughout my analysis, and visualising the fight...certain rounds occurred to me naturally. It helped alot watching each of there fights, round after round at the same time...took a few hours...but its worth it for such a fight.

 

Didn't read it but Wlad wins almost every round anyway. And this bit..

Wladimir Klitsckho is already the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world :deal

 

I'm a big haye fan.. but I have a feeling this fight will be pretty boring. I see haye fighting like he did against Valuev.. Staying out of reach from vlads jab and trying to get counters off, using his speed/movement.

I can't see him starting fast at all.. I think thats all talk. He want's wlad to come out swinging from the start. That's what all the trash talkings about. Haye Trying to **** Wlad off, so he neglects his game plan and his jab and just tries to knock him out from te first bell. That plays into hayes hands.

 

wlads not lost a round in 5 years what makes you think haye is going to win any???

 

At the moment the only way I see Haye opening up is if he manages to land a decent counter on Wlad first. I think Wlad knows Haye's style so he will be extra cautious, it really will be jab jab grab...I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see a right hand from Wlad in the first few rounds. I only see two outcomes, if Haye's speed and countering proves enough to unsettle Wlad then Haye has a chance, if Wlad's defence is good enough to avoid getting caught by pot shotted counters then Haye will tire be mid-late rounds and Wlad will do what he wants. Is that sitting on the fence?