Haye Vs Klitschko (The real equation in this)

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  1. BoxingFan2010

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    Haye vs Klitschko, lets evaluate all the facts from both sides. Klitschko's want a 50/50 deal, Haye wants all UK ppv. Firstly, this fight will sell more worldwide then any Haye fight EVER. Secondly this fight will sell more in the UK than Haye/Valuev & Haye/Harrison. So even UK fans that try to bull**** about this, this fight does more for Haye than any other fight, why, because a Klitschko is involved.

    Haye and fans think Haye deserves more. Let me ask you this? Who would be promoting this fight with their own money? Bet if this fight ever happened it would be K2 doing all worldwide promotions. Funny Haye and fans think this would not cost money! Will Haye try to promote this fight and bring the venue? Haye already tried that. What happened is history, Haye FAILED, it does not matter what bull**** excuse you go by from Haye and fans, he FAILED.

    Haye and british fans thinking only about UK ppv. Think bigger, your little minds may not comprehend, but, worldwide revenues will be bigger than any Haye fight ever. 50% of that will make it Hayes biggest payday ever.
    Come on Haye, you want the money to retire soon. You and your fans know where the money is. If you can't take this fight, then the money is not the most important to you. I would then say the most important to you is your afraid to lose to a Klitschko. Which one is it Haye?

    As a Klitschko fan and a Haye hater (Only due to Haye's bull****) and Haye's fans will never convince me otherwise, I personally believe Haye does not want the fight. He needs to step and fight a live heavyweight.

    Do Haye fans really believe that Haye can beat Peters, Arreola, ect...ect. Then why does Haye not step up and fight a top 5 fighter? I will tell you why. That would be the end of Haye's money train (End of story there).

    Haye makes more off this fight even splitting the UK ppv then any other he has ever had. If delusional UK fans can't comprehend the above. I am sure that Haye does. If not then Haye is not to bright and deserves to get put to the end of the line and waiting untill a Klitschko thinks he learned his lesson and deserves a fight again.

    Will Haye and his fans ever realize what is really at state. My guess is probably not. To bad for them!

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  2. NoHomeJerome

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    It's not about who deserves what. Haye clearly generates more money from TV because he has a PPV deal. The Klits don't. The Klits for some reason think they deserve half of Haye's PPV money, that Haye negotiated for himself. Mayweather got none of Hatton's UK PPV money. It is completely unreasonable to ask for half of Haye's UK PPV money, simple as.
     
  3. madballster

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    If Haye makes the fight now then he will have to pay 5, 10, 20% or whatever percentage of his income to Sauerland.

    That's why Haye has no interest in the Klitschkos, he just doesn't want to admit he signed a shitty slave contract with Sauerland.

    If Haye does a true 50-50 with the Klits then the equation looks like this:

    Klitschko 50%
    Haye 40%
    Sauerland 10% (just to throw a random number in here)

    Remember how Haye always says "K2 offer 50-50 on the surface, but when you look at it in depth, it's not really 50-50". Well, nobody forced the two dumbasses Haye/Booth do sign that slave contract with Sauerland did they?? :lol:
     
  4. NoHomeJerome

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    True.

    But then Booth asked Boente to do all the negotiations in public (so we can see the truth?), Boente flat out declined.:deal

    If it really was 50-50 what are they hiding?
     
  5. BoxingFan2010

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    If that was true, I think its bull****, but, lets go with what you said. Then Haye would not mind taking his highest ppv numbers, after a Klitschko fight anything above that is the Klitschko's as everyone is saying in the UK that this fight brings lower numbers than Haye/Valuev & Haye/Harrison.
     
  6. BoxingFan2010

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    Nothing, everything could be public, no reason to do that untill Haye & company are serious about a fight. Any ****** knows they are not serious yet. When will they?
     
  7. madballster

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    Anybody with a wee bit of business acumen wouldn't waste time talking to Booth until you know they're ready. With the Sauerland slave contract it's obvious they are not ready to begin even the most basic talks so why "negotiate".

    Remember Bönte negotiated with Sauerland in 2007 for a Wlad/Valuev HW unification fight. The talks crumbled over TV rights issues as Sauerland insisted the unfication fight would have to be shown on ARD, their TV partner. Same **** as with Haye.

    With Sauerland on board a fight Haye - Klitschkos will never happen. Haye is just too much of a chicken**** to admit it. Watch how Booth was embarassed when Bönte brought up the Sauerland topic in the recent video.
     
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    Haye-Valuev was a huge promotion job, Haye was on TV chat shows every day with a lifesize cut out of Valuev for months, it did 800k buys. Now a Klitschko fight would also be a huge promotion, I would say possibly a million buys, although after the Audley farce I wouldn't be suprised if it was similiar to Valuev. No one really knows who the Klitschkos are here. I know you will be sad to heart that, but seriously, they don't.

    K2s demand of getting half of Haye's PPV money is ridiculous.
     
  9. BoxingFan2010

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    :good
     
  10. NoHomeJerome

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    Anyone with a "wee bit of business accumen" would never let someone take half of a deal you negotiated for yourself in return for half of a poorer deal your new "partner" negotiated himself.:deal:deal:deal:deal
     
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    Think world wide, not just UK. Haye will get his 50/50 of worldwide profits, are you too FU to understand that? Or is worldwide not in you vocabulary?
     
  12. madballster

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    Then maybe Haye should have never called out Wlad and the Klitschkos though shouldn't he? I mean if 50-50 is "unfair to him" because he negotiated himself such a terrific PPV deal then why did he keep calling out the Klitschkos all these years, even mentioning that he *DOES WANT A 50-50 DEAL ACROSS THE BOARD*????

    Remember this little nugget??? :deal:deal:deal

    Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...itschko-brothers-should-fight-each-other.html

    And now you're telling me that the Klitschkos saying they will only do 50-50 is unreasonable? I don't get it? Why has Haye mentioned 50-50 all the time a couple months before, then the Klits offer it and suddenly it's not good enough??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  13. BoxingFan2010

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    Good point :good Forgot that one :(
     
  14. HENDO

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    Wlad was banned from HBO. Last I heard, he wasn't even allowed back in the country due to his "performance" against Ibriganov.
     
  15. NoHomeJerome

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKfQQAhuCRE[/ame]

    :patsch